No. 33, Miscellaneous
               
            
            
               
               
               22 March 1860
               
               My Lord Duke
                
            
            
               I have the honor to acknowledge the receipt of Your Grace's
               Despatch, N
o 3, of the 
5th of September 1859 transmitting
               an Act passed in the recent Session of Parliament
               
               to make further provision for the regulation of the Trade 
               
with
               
with the
               Indians and for the Administration of Justice in the 
North
                  Western Territories of America.
               
               
               2.  Your Grace with reference to that Act, also calls my
               attention to the circumstance that it applies only to the
               Territories over which the Hudsons Bay Company lately held
               an exclusive license of trade with the Indians, and not to the
               Territories held under their Charter, nor to 
British Columbia;
               that the Act has been passed to enable the Crown to take
               measures for establishing order in the administration of the
               Executive and in the conduct 
               
of
               
               of trade in those vast regions;
               and Your Grace concludes with observing that you will be glad
               to receive from me a report as to the persons whom I may consider
               eligible for Magistrates in those 
North Western Territories;
               and also as to any regulations as to the conduct of the Indian
               Trade which I may consider advisable.
               
               3.  I would submit, in the first place, with reference to
               Your Grace's enquiry, as to persons eligible for Magistrates
               in those Territories, the advisability of appointing to that
               Office, persons acquainted with the geography of the country,
               and who also 
               
possess
               
               possess a knowledge of Indian character, and a
               sufficient degree of intelligence to administer the Laws with
               propriety and discretion.
               
               4.  Gentlemen possessed of those requisites may be found
               among the Officers of the Hudson's Bay Company, and in the 
Red River Settlement, where now reside many persons of great
               intelligence and experience of Indian character.
               
               5.  In case none of the former should be disposed to accept
               of employment in the public service, or that neither class be
               considered by Your 
               
Grace
               
               Grace qualified to undertake the chief duties
               of so responsible an office, it may then be thought advisable
               to appoint one chief or presiding Magistrate of Known ability,
               and to permit him to select as many otherwise qualified persons,
               from the classes I have alluded to, as Her Majesty's Government
               may wish to employ;  and by that means I believe that a well
               trained and efficient body of Magistrates may soon be found.
               
               6.  I regret that I cannot personally recommend to Your Grace's
               notice any 
               
of
               
               of the gentlemen I have alluded to, as it is upwards
               of 20 years since I last visited 
Red River settlement, and the
               countries east of the 
Rocky Mountains;  but I have no doubt the
               Governor of the Hudson's Bay Company will readily furnish Your
               Grace with information on that subject.
               
               7.  On the other point of Your Grace's enquiry respecting the
               regulations for the conduct of the Indian Trade, I would take the
               liberty of suggesting as a necessary precaution against the rapid
               demoralization 
               
of
               
               of the Indian Tribes, and for the prevention of
               crime, that all persons entering the Indian country for the
               purposes of trade, should be licensed, and required to enter into
               bonds under a heavy penalty, and to the following effect;
               .off Firstly,
               
               Not to deal in, nor to furnish ardent spirits either
               gratuitously or in barter for any consideration whatsoever,
               to the Indians with whom they trade.
               .off And Secondly,
               
               To enter into securities for their own good behaviour,
               and for that of all persons 
               
employed
               
               employed in their service.
               .off end
               
               8.  As any attempt to fix the relative exchange values of Furs
               and European goods would in all probability fail of the intended
               effect, and be of no ultimate advantage to the Indians, it would
               perhaps be advisable not to interfere with prices but to leave
               their regulation entirely to the natural effects of competition;
               especially as the Natives are acutely alive to their own interest,
               know the value of furs and could not be induced to dispose of
               them for less 
               
than
               
               than their value.
               
               9.  The Machinery by which I would propose to enforce
               those regulations, and generally to maintain law and order
               within the Territory, is simple and inexpensive;  involving
               as I will now endeavour to shew, no greater expense than the
               formation and maintenance of two, or at the most three Military
               or Police Stations, each to become a nucleus of settlement.
               
            
            
               10.  I ought here to explain that the region extending from
               
Lake Superior to 
Red River, 
               
as
               
               as well as North of the 
Saskatchewan River to the Arctic Circle, and East of 
Lake Winipeg to the
               shores of 
Hudson's Bay, being a vast wilderness of continuous
               and almost impenetrable forest, is, for all practicable
               purposes of trade, inaccessible by land, or otherwise than
               by following the course of its navigable streams and Rivers.
               To the westward of the "strong wood" country there is a natural
               road practicable for pack-horses and carts through the borders
               of the Prairie Country from 
Red River Settlement to Carlton on
               the Saskatchewan 
               
Saskatchewan 
                   
               River
               
                River
               River
               River;  but that route requiring an expensive
               outfit, being only accessible from 
Red River, as well as
               dangerous for small parties in consequence of the predatory
               habits of the Natives, was never used for the purposes of trade;
               the water communication being always preferred as a safe and
               much cheaper route for the transit of goods.
               
               11.  The navigable route from the North end of 
Lake Superior
               to 
Lake Winipeg, to the sources of 
the Sascatchewan, and to
               McKenzies River, is traced out upon the accompanying 
               
Map
               
               Map.  There
               are certain points on that route by which all the traffic of
               the country must unavoidably pass;  and I propose that Government
               should hold those points by means of a small Military or Police
               Force, and by that simple plan govern and control the whole
               Indian Territory east of the 
Rocky Mountains.
               
               12.  The chartered possessions of the Hudson's Bay Company
               comprising the Territory around 
Hudson's Bay, and extending to
               the water-shed between 
Hudson's Bay and 
Lake Superior, and further,
               as traced in the accompanying skeleton Map, through 
Lake Winipeg,
               and 
               
from
               
               from thence in a Northerly direction to the 60
th degree
               of North latitude, would, I assume, in any re-arrangement of the
               Territory, be left, as heretofore, to the custody of the Hudson's
               Bay Company;  and thus all access to the interior country would
               be closed from the side of 
Hudson's Bay.
               
               13.  Should the 
Colony of Red River fall to the Crown, the
               Superintendence of the first of those projected territorial
               Districts, to wit, that extending from 
Lake Superior to 
Lake Winipeg, will naturally come 
               
come
               
               within the jurisdiction of the
               Courts of that Colony;  on the contrary, a station judiciously
               placed on the 
Kaministiquia River near its dis-charge into the
               North end of 
Lake Superior, would entirely command that great
               outlet, through which, for the reason before stated, to wit, the
               absence of any other navigable communication, all the trade of
               the District towards Canada, must of necessity pass;  and all
               parties travelling to and from Canada should be required to report
               to the Officer in command of that Station;  
               
and
               
               and those entering the
               country, to take out trading licenses, and to give the necessary bonds.
               
               15.  This is in fact the sole navigable outlet of the second,
               and with the exception of the dangerous route by 
Nelson
               
                Nelson River
               Nelson River
               Nelson River to
               
Hudson's Bay, also of the third proposed Territorial District.
               
               16.  At that point therefore, I would propose to form a
               second station, to intercept all trading parties from the Colony
               of 
Red River and other places, who from their inland position,
               could not report at the Lake Superior Station;  and there also
               licenses might be issued, and bonds received, as before stated.
               
               17.  Those two Stations would intercept all the traffic
               except that through 
Hudson's Bay by 
Nelson
               
                Nelson River
               Nelson River
               Nelson River, before adverted
               to;  and should circumstances require that outlet to be also
               guarded a third Station formed at "
Frog Portage" would
               hermetically seal the Country, and enable the Government to regulate
               and control the trade with perfect ease and without much expense.
               
               18.  Thus, a Station at the North end of 
Lake Superior,
               composed of 2 Officers and 40 Men;  another at the Grand Rapid,
               composed of 2 Officers and 30 Men;  and a third at "
Frog Portage"
               composed of 2 Officers and 20 Men;  in all Six Officers holding
               Commissions 
               
of
               
               of the Peace, and Ninety Men, would render Her
               Majesty's Government masters of the Country.
               
               19.  Those Officers would, I assume, be required to act
               as Magistrates, and have power to hear and determine in a
               summary way, all cases brought before them;  that is to
               administer quick and easy justice.
               
            
            
               20.  The trade with the Indians would then be exclusively
               carried on by persons duly licensed, and under bonds for their
               good behaviour;  thus giving the 
               
best
               
               best attainable security against
               the baneful traffic in ardent spirits, and for the maintenance
               of peace and order in the Territory.
               
               21.  I conceive it would be essential in promoting the ends
               of Justice, that the Indians of those Territories, who are
               remarkably honest and trustworthy, should be considered and
               treated in all respects as British Subjects;  that their testimony
               should be received as legal evidence in the District Courts, and that
               they should be punished and protected only by the 
               
Laws
               
               Laws of the Country.
               
               22.  A revenue might be raised to defray in part the expense
               of those establishments by levying a small duty on imports, should
               Her Majesty's Government deem it expedient to do so.
               
            
            
               23.  I trust Your Grace may not find that I have wandered
               beyond the points referred to me for report;  though the subject
               being a large one, and full of interest to me, I have probably
               treated it more fully than was required;  yet I trust 
               
the
               
               the
               suggestions I have made may not be without their use.
               
               24.  Begging to refer Your Grace to the accompanying skeleton
               Map of the Territory in question.
               
            
            
            
            
            
            
               Minutes by CO staff
               
                
                  
                  Mr Elliot
                     This despatch contains valuable and important suggestions
                     for use at the proper time.
                     
 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  Mr Fortescue
                     I will not detain this despatch now for the study which I
                     should like to bestow upon its' subject.  I will merely say
                     that its views seem to me broad and commanding, and to afford
                     fresh evidence of that practical ability which I always think
                     apparent in 
Mr Douglas!
                     
 
                  
                  
                     Recommendations?
                     
                  
                  
                   
               
                
                  
                  
                     I do not know what 
Govnor Douglas' authority is for the
                     boundaries of the "Chartered Territory" marked on his map—which
                     are much more limited than those claimed by the H.B.Co.
                     
                     We have no information wh. wd. lead one to think that a
                     system of Military posts, such as is here proposed, is at
                     present called for—or that the withdrawal of the License has
                     diminished the authority of the Co. throughout those vast
                     regions—or led to indiscriminate fur trading or to Indian
                     disorders.  If such results sh. show themselves, then these
                     suggestions will deserve every attention.
                     
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                     This despatch will be valuable when we receive an answer
                     from the H.B.C. respecting the 
Red River & their Charter.  In
                     the mean time I think we may ask 
Govr D: from what authority his
                     Map is traced.
                     
 
                
            
            
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                     Note in file:  "Map of British North America,
                     being an enclosure to CO 60/7, Report No 33 has been removed to
                     M.P.G. 152, 18/1/1927, Hilary Jenkinson."
                     
                     
                   
            
            
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