Murdoch to Elliot (Assistant Under-Secretary)
Emigration Office
29 July 1861
I have to acknowledge your letter of
15th instant
enclosing a despatch from the Governor of
British Columbia
on the subject of the claims of the Hudsons Bay C
o to
land in that Colony.
2.
Governor Douglas states that the inconvenience
arising from the unsettled state of the Company's claims
becomes daily more apparent, and that the difficulty of
a final settlement
will increase in proportion to the
delay in arriving at it. He therefore suggests as a basis
of Settlement, that the places occupied by the Company as
existing Forts or Posts, and which are necessary for carrying
on their business, should be transferred to them in fee,
together with any fields or gardens actually enclosed by
fences & under cultivation—provided that no such grant
should exceed 100 Acres of Country land at any one place,
except at
New Langley and
Kamloops, where the Company have
a number of
Cattle and Horses. In those places the grants
he suggests might be increased to 500 Acres. In the Towns
Governor Douglas proposes that the Grants should be restricted
to building lots actually occupied by the Company's business houses.
3. This arrangement the Governor proposes as a liberal
concession to the equitable claims of the Company, and as
exceeding what they are legally entitled to claim. If there
were any probability that they would accept it, it would
I think be unquestionably an advantageous settlement for the
public. But it
falls so very far short of the claims put forward by the Company, and supported on
a former occasion by
Governor Douglas himself, that I cannot believe it possible that the Company should accept it.
4. In the Month of
October 1858 the Governor of the Hudsons Bay C
o Mr Berens, brought the question of the Company's
claim to the Lands they had occupied in
B. Columbia under the
consideration of
Sir E.B. Lytton. On the
16th of the
following November Sir E. Lytton transmitted the correspondence
to
Govr Douglas,
and directed him to furnish a report
on the extent and nature of the C
os claims. In that despatch
Sir E. Lytton stated that he was prepared to draw a considerable
distinction between land which had been subjected to cultivation
or had involved outlay on the part of the Company, or was
necessary to the maintenance of their existing stock or
establishments, and land which had served the more occasional
purpose of affording pasturage to herds or beasts of burden.
5. The report thus called for was furnished by
Governor Douglas' despatch of
31st May 1859. The result
was that
the land claimed by the Company amounted in all to 98,000 Acres,
that of this 10 Acres were in the Town of
Old Fort Langley,
6,400 Acres in its immediate vicinity and 640 Acres in the
Town of
Fort Hope, that the whole of the Land had "involved
outlay" on the part of the Company and that upwards of 80,000 Acres
had been brought into partial cultivation and were necessary for
the maintenance of existing Stock. The Company further
claimed £5,000 for making roads and for land between
Fort Hope
&
Thompsons River improved by the sowing of Grass seed.
6. To these extensive claims
Governor Douglas at the time
gave an earnest support, urging the Title of the Company to
liberal consideration and alleging the recognition of similar
claims within the United States Territory by the Oregon Treaty
of
1846. Upon this subject I would request a reference
to the report from this Office of
29th Augt 1859. A
great change it appears has since taken place in
Governor
Douglas' views on the subject, but there is no probability
that a similar change has
taken place in the Company's views.
I should have no expectation, therefore, of any result from
Governor Douglas' proposition, nor is it made in so definite a form as to admit of any conclusive
action. At the same time
it might be as well to communicate it to the Company for any
observations they might desire to make, which might afford some
information as to the light in which they themselves regard their claims.
Minutes by CO staff
Communicate the substance of the Govrr's proposal
to the H.B.Co. for any observations they may have
to make—but not the despatch itself.