Confidential
               
            
            
               
               
                     Victoria
                     
                  
               21st November 1868
               
               My Lord Duke,
                
            
            
            
            
               2.  I, on the 
5th of June, requested Your Grace to defer the
               formal confirmation of M
r Young until I had made some further
               communication on the subject.  I have
never
 never made a complaint
               against him, nor have I had cause for being anything but fully
               satisfied with his zeal, integrity, temper, and knowledge.  If I
               hestitated in recommending his final confirmation it was only
               because I was informed that he was
               
too well acquainted with the place and had too many interests in it.
               There were statements
of
 of his having been indiscreet in his
               revelations to old friends but I do not believe in their truth.
               I was but little prepared for the interpretation put upon my
               letter by Your Grace.  As soon as I heard that Your Grace
               proposed to make an appointment I wrote to try to avert this
               step, on the 
16th November.  I telegraphed to the same
effect
 effect
               on the 
14th November,
               
               
               

                     
                     Arrived too late.
                     
               
               
               and this morning I telegraphed again to
               beg Your Grace to pause.  Possibly the matter may be
               reconsidered if 
Mr Hankin shall not have left England.
               
               
               

                     
                     He left on 4 Nov.
                     
               
               3.  I may say that this would be a most unfortunate time for the
               arrival of a new Colonial Secretary.  The Session about to
               commence, the first in 
Victoria, will
be
 be one of particular
               difficulty.  The people, not satisfied with the steady
               reductions I am making, are determined that their
               representatives shall only allow our present estimates to pass
               by the official votes.  How a man totally ignorant of what has
               passed in the Colony for the last few years can furnish the
               information which will be called for
on
 on every petty item of
               expenditure I am at a loss to know.  
Mr Hankin, even if he
               were able to fill the place of Colonial Secretary  would come
               before the public with peculiarly bad grace.  It is but last
               year that he received from the impoverished funds of the Colony
               £51.11.0 as compensation for loss of office and £165 for
               passages of wife and family to England.
It
  It is a little
               embarrassing to me to find that a man whose services I could not
               avail myself of in any of the offices of middling importance and
               with which therefore I had to dispense returns on my hands after
               due compensation for loss of office, to the highest post in the
               Colony.  Then, he will come before the Public, during the fury
               for retrenchment
which
 which now rages, as a fresh burden on the
               Colony.  The President of the Council will appear weighted with
               the money he got from my having dispensed with the
               Services which might have been required of him in keeping
               order below the bar.  If 
Mr Young was to be removed, I
               had in 
Mr Ball, 
Mr O'Reilly or 
Mr Trutch men of far
               greater experience and better education than 
MrHankin Hankin
 Hankin.  One
               of these could have been transferred to the Colonial
               Secretaryship and the Salary of his office saved.  Her Majesty's
               Government directs me to retrench in every way.
               
               4.  It is my duty to Your Grace and it is by no means unfair to
               
Mr Hankin to state what his antecedents in this Colony have
               been and how far they will enable
him
 him to secure the full
               deference and respect to which the Colonial Secretary (next in
               succession to the Governorship) has a right.
               
               5.  M
r Hankin, a Lieutenant in H.M.S. "
Hecate," resigned his
               commission for the purpose of proceeding to our Northern Mines
               to dig for gold.  No one who does not know 
Cariboo can
               understand the strange
associations
 associations and singular friendships
               which gold digging there entails, where muscle is nearly
               everything, the brain of little use.  I should however say, he
               was accompanied by a brother.  That brother has stuck to the
               diggings.  It is in no way discreditable to the 
Messrs Hankin
               that they did not succeed in their labours.  
Mr Philip Hankin
               returned "dead broke"—
that
that is, without a farthing in his pocket.
               Worked his way down, on foot I believe, stopping necessarily at
               the [strange pot?] houses by the roadside.
               
               
               6.  On arrival in 
Victoria, after some delay he was appointed
               Junior Clerk in the Colonial Secretary's Office at a Salary of
               £200 a year, under 
Mr Young; whom he is now to supplant.
               
               7.  But, as stated by
Governor Governor Kennedy
 Governor Kennedy in his despatch No. 100
               of 
3rd Decr 1864, 
Mr Horace Smith the Inspector of
               Police was indicted for "having received numerous bribes to
               permit gambling in various public houses and for other immoral
               purposes."  He resigned, and into his somewhat tainted and never
               very agreeable appointment 
Mr Hankin was placed, at a salary
               of
£350
 £350 and a residence within the prison walls.
               
               8.  He was employed with 
Rear Admiral Denman on an expedition
               against some Indian pirates, whom the natives declined to give
               up.  The scuttlers of a vessel and the murderers of her crew
               were shelled for a considerable time by the flagship "
Sutlej"
               and the sloop "
Devestation."  The effect was considerable
loss
 loss
               of lives, eighty say the Indians, but the murderers were not
               surrendered.  For personal gallantry on this occasion 
Mr
                  Hankin at the intercession of 
Admiral Denman was restored to the Navy.
               
               9.  I beg to refer Your Grace to 
Sir James Douglas' despatch No.
               67 of the 
25th of October 1861.  He reports "I have been
               obliged to dismiss
the
 the Acting Harbour Master of the Port of
               
Victoria, 
Mr Jeremiah Nagle, in consequence of discovering
               irregularities in his accounts, and that he had been in the
               habit of charging and appropriating to his own use, fees for
               services rendered in his official capacity."  
Mr Hankin
               married one of 
Mr Nagle's daughters.  The family is still in
               the Colony.
Would
  Would this connexion be a desirable one for the
               highest officer in the Colony?
               
               10.  I make these observations in no illnatured spirit, but the
               knowledge that until more liberal Institutions are granted much
               of the comfort of society and of the easy administration of the
               Government will depend upon the personal weight of the public
               Officers.  And
this
 this is not a time when an ounce of that weight
               can be spared.  The "dead broke" miner must have some curious
               friends.  The Junior Clerk must have had associates of a class
               similar to his own.  The Inspector of Police must be well
               acquainted with Public Houses and less reputable places.  But he
               is not the man to lead the Legislative Council, more
               particularly
if
 if he comes back after having been paid in full for
               the abolition of his police appointment and in acquital of
               any claim he might be thought to possess, previously, upon the
               Government of this Colony.
               
               10.  [sic] On the other hand 
Mr Young has been Colonial
               Secretary of 
Vancouver Island since 
1852 and, according to the
               Office List, "compiled from Official records with
permission
 permission of
               the Secretary of State,"
               
Colonial Secretary of 
British Columbia since 
July 1867.
               
               11.  He is an excellent pains taking Public Officer and if the
               only report that I ever heard against him—that he is still on
               very intimate terms with his former friends and relations be
               true—I look upon it at this present moment when
the
 the newspapers
               are busy with a controversy as to the relative merits of 
Sir
                  James Douglas and myself, as fortunate that there is a mutual
               friend who can and does prevent any asperity arising on either
               side out of the Public arguments.
               
               12.  The news of 
Mr Hankin's appointment reached 
Victoria
               this morning and I learn that great excitement prevails and that
               he would not now
be
 be allowed to land without personal violence.
               As to his managing the Legislative Council during the
               approaching Session I look upon that as impossible.  Should he
               unfortunately have left England before my telegrams reach Your
               Grace, I do not know what circumstances may require, but the
               people are in no pleasant humour.  Fenians, if not Americans,
would
               would probably join in any riot which may arise.
               
               13.  Your Grace will excuse me for speaking out thus plainly,
               but I know that you have but one object in view, that of
               promoting the peace, order and good Government of the Colony.
               All these I respectfully submit would be emperilled
               
               should I meet the Legislative Council with 
Mr Hankinas
 as President
               and Leader of it.
               
               I have the honor to be,
               My Lord Duke,
               Your Grace's most obedient
               humble Servant.
               
Frederick Seymour
               
               Minutes by CO staff
               
                
                  
                  
                     Lord Granville
                     As this and the accompanying dph are marked confidential I pass
                     them straight to you.  They 
shd , I conceive, be registered &
                     treated officially.
                     
                     
                     

                           Yes.
                           
                        
                      
                  
                  
                     I dare say that the appointment is an unfortunate one, but I
                     also am under the impression that 
Mr Seymour makes the worst of
                     it—(It is rather his way to make the most of things)—and I
                     think that he has brought it on himself.
                     
                     Mr Seymour having been 
Govr of 
B. Columbia since
                     1863  having been also 
Govr of 
V.C. Island since 
1866  and
                     having had the services of 
Mr Young in the capacity of
                     Colonial Secretary since 
July 1867 ought in 
June 1868 to have
                     pretty well understood 
Mr Y's merits & demerits.  But

 it
                     has always appeared to me that 
Mr Seymour & other persons
                     connected with 
B. Columbia have shewn an adverse disposition
                     towards 
Mr Young—who has always been connected with the [one word
                     cut off microfilm] interest of 
V.C. Island.  
Mr Seymour did not
                     resign himself to the appointment of 
Mr Young as Colonial
                     Secretary, and in 
June 1868 with a mysterious kind of letter
                     ("secret") deprecating 
Mr Young's apptmt with
t further
                     communication with him.  The result as will be seen by the
                     minutes was the 
Hankin appointment.
                     
 
                  
                  
                     I doubt myself whether there was at any time any sufficient
                     cause for delaying 
Mr Young's appointment after 
Mr Birch
 gave up
                     the Colonial Secretaryship.
                     
                     If anything portentous has happened we shall hear of it by
                     telegram through the U.S. and YL will be better able to judge
                     what must or can be done (i.e. to recall 
Mr Hankin).  It 
wd be a
                     leap in the dark, I think, to take
                     any decisive step on the faith of mere prognostications.
                     
                     It is a question whether

 copies of these dphes 
shd or 
shd 
                     not be sent to the 
Duke of Buckingham.
                     
                     
                     

                           I think so.
                           
                        
                     
                     Some private letters for H.G. from 
Mr Seymour arrived by the
                     same mail.
                     
                     I saw 
Mr Hankin while he was in England, and thought his manner
                     frank & prepossessing.  He seemed a man of sense and self reliance.
                     
                     He left England on the 
4th of Novr and I suppose 
wd
                     arrive in 
B.C. towards the end of 
December.
                     
 
                  
                  
                     I agree with you in thinking we had better wait a little.
                     
                  
                  
                   
            
            
            
               
                  People in this document
                  
                        Ball,  John
                        
                  Birch,  Arthur Nonus
                  
                        Denman, Rear Admiral Joseph
                  
                        Douglas, Sir James
                  
                        Grenville, Richard
                  
                        Hankin, Philip J.
                  
                        Kennedy, Arthur
                  
                        Leveson-Gower, Granville George
                  Nagle, Jeremiah
                  O'Reilly, Peter
                  Rogers, Baron Blachford Frederic
                  Seymour, Governor Frederick
                  
                        Smith, Superintendant Horace
                  Trutch, Sir Joseph William
                  Young, William Alexander George
                
               
                  Vessels in this document
                  HMS Devastation, 1841-1866
                  HMS Hecate, 1839-1865
                  HMS Sutlej
                
               
                  Places in this document
                  British Columbia
                  Cariboo Region
                  Vancouver Island
                  Victoria