No. 20
23rd February 1870
My Lord,
In the Message with which I caused the Legislative Session to be
opened on the
15th instant, Your Lordship will observe that I
stated it to be my intention to recommend such a modification of
the
present present Legislative Constitution as would permit a majority
of the Members of the Council to be formally returned for
Electoral Districts. Such a course seems to me to be
unavoidable if any suitable arrangements are to be made for the
local Government under Confederation with Canada; and many
reasons seem to render it expedient that the change should
precede any final
arrangement arrangement of terms of Union. Pressure is
being made to introduce Responsible Government, for which the
Community is not fit. That pressure will be more easily
resisted now, than subsequently to Confederation. The existing
form of Government as a Crown Colony could not continue in a
Confederated Province and it would be unwise in my estimation to
leave it
in in existence so long as to oblige a dangerous change
immediately after Union. In time to come no doubt "Responsible
Government" will be developed; but the leap from a Crown
Council of Nominees to that first and most easily abused of all
forms of representative administration, it would be well I think
to render less sudden by the introduction of some intermediate
modification.
modification
2. I therefore submit for Your Lordship's consideration the
propriety of furnishing me with the necessary authority by Order
in Council for carrying into effect such changes as may be
determined upon. I am advised by the Attorney General that the
Council as at present established has no power to pass any
Ordinance to alter its
own own constitution. I confess I should not
have been of this opinion, though I am aware that any such Bill
must have been specially reserved for Her Majesty's decision.
But his view of the case prevents my introducing any measure for
discussion, and I can only present for your consideration my own
opinion and what I believe will upon the whole
give give satisfaction.
3. The Council at present consists of twenty two Members of
whom nine are appointed "in deference to the expressed wishes of
the people." The result is that de facto but not de jure they
are elected for different Districts. All the disadvantages, if
any, of legal election are suffered, and more, for aliens and
transient residents who are not
British British subjects have been
allowed to vote, and there has not latterly been any attempt to
recognize any franchise, though formerly there was a Franchise
established by Law in
Vancouver Island. I do not see any
advantage in retaining what may be termed a hybrid Legislative
body which is neither a true Crown Council, nor an Assembly
partly
representative representative such as I desire to see established. Of
the other thirteen Members of the Council eleven are paid
Officers of the Government. It will thus be seen that there is
not a majority at the absolute command of the Government unless
the Governor presides himself which has not been usual. But of
course when the Officers of Government vote compactly together
under direction the result is not
often often doubtful, and the fact
that the Governor may interpose his casting voice, if he
chooses, enables it to be said that the form of government is
practically a denial of representative Institutions. Now, I,
for my own part believe that measures for which the government
altogether fail to obtain any unofficial support in such a
community as this which
is is very dissimilar in character from
other Crown Colonies, can scarcely be such as it is desirable to
pass. With two unofficial Members in the Executive Council as
the Governors advisers, I should not be afraid of the
consequences of allowing the representative Members to have a
majority of seats in a mixed Legislative Council; while that
arrangement confers an appearance of
liberality liberality which is not
without its advantages.
4. The present body moreover is numerically larger than is
necessary now, or would be desirable after Confederation—and
there is some inconvenience arising from the attendance of the
Magistrates belonging to the Country Districts who are nominee Members.
5. What I propose therefore is the substitution
of of a Council of
fifteen Members of whom six should be appointed by the
Crown—The Colonial Secretary, Attorney General, and Chief Commissioner
of Lands and Words, being ex officio three of those six—and
that the other nine Members should be formally and legally
elected for the Districts at present designated, of which the
limits may require some more precise
definition definition.
6. With such a Legislature I believe that the government would
morally be stronger and practically exercise quite as much
control, indeed, would receive more assistance, in the conduct
of public affairs than has hitherto been the case. The five
Official members of the Executive Council can always be members
of
the the Legislative body—three of them ex officio—and with the
two unofficial members making seven,
But it is proposed to have only 6 non elective.
they in case of concerted measures, would only require the
adhesion of one more member to secure a majority. It is hard to
believe that upon any point the government should be so wrong as
to be unable to obtain that one vote among eight members
entertaining probably
different different opinions upon most points.
8. I would suggest
that that power might be given in the Order in
Council to settle the limits of these Districts by Proclamation.
9. As regards a franchise, none is possible, throughout the
largest part of the Colony. We must be content with universal
suffrage
suffrage limited to British subjects. Hitherto practically the
members for the districts have been elected by universal
suffrage including foreigners. A system which I think it was
dangerous to introduce, and which, if allowed to continue would
very probably defeat Confederation.
10. In conclusion I should observe that I think it desirable
that a change should be made in the constitution so as to enable
reelection before finally deciding upon any terms of Union;
because I doubt
that that the true wishes of the Community can be
represented by the present Council. The unofficial Members are
equally divided so far as I know. And the Officials if left
altogether to their own discretion in the matter would upon the
whole prefer to leave things as they are. I think it would be
undesirable that so great a change should be carried into effect
by
an an enforced official vote. Reaction would be sure to follow
which would give trouble. While if the question is put fairly
to the Community, my present impression is that a large majority
of British subjects will be in favor of Union with Canada on
advantageous terms.
I have the honor to be,
My Lord,
Your most obedient
humble Servant
A. Musgrave
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Sir F. Rogers
Mr Musgrave proposes a reconstitution of the Legislative
Council—that is to make it partly nominated & partly
really elected—with a preponderance of the latter.
As to the power of the present Legislative Council to effect
this themselves
Mr Musgrave apparently has not been made
acquainted with
Lord Granville's despatch of the
6th March 1869
(1273).
As regards reconstitution I would call to your
recollection your minutes on Gov. 6951/68 & 539/61.
I would adopt
Govr Musgraves proposals.
Mr Holland
could, if so, be good enough to examine whether this can be done by
Order in C. or whether a short Act of Parl
t wd be necessary.
Sir F. Rogers
By
21 & 22 Vict. c. 99
Her Majesty was empowered by Order in Council to constitute a
Legislature, and by Order in Council of
11 June 1863 the present
Legislative Council was constituted.
By
26 & 27 Vict. c. 83
the former Act was continued until
December 1863 & no longer.
The powers of HM therefore ceased in
Dec/63, & the sixth
section of
29 & 30 Vict. c. 67
only kept alive powers which
were exerciseable
by HM at the time of the passing of the Act.
I am of opinion that a short Act of Parliament must be passed,
and upon the whole it seems best by such Act to enable H Majesty
by Order in Council to constitute a new Legislative Council
composed according to the suggestions of
Govr Musgrave.
When this Representative Council has been constituted, it will
have full power under 28 & 29
Vict. c. 63 to change its form &c.
I have drafted a Bill & Order in Council & send them on.
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Holland to Secretary to the Treasury,
3 May 1870, forwarding
extracts of the despatch along with a copy of a bill drafted
to effect the desired constitutional changes for the consideration
of
Mr. Thring.
Handwritten draft, "Bill to make further provision for the
Government of
British Columbia," no date; extensive revisions.
Printed copy of draft bill as noted above, 18 April 1870.
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Sir F. Rogers
If you approve, this might be at once brought in. Q
y
House of Lords or Commons. With
Govr 20/70/3412.
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Printed copy, "Chap. 66. An Act to make further provision for
the Government of
British Columbia,"
9 August 1870.
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Mr Holland
I would propose to substitute this for the first 2 1/2 pages of your
draft. It is a rearrangement of the same ideas.
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Draft reply,
Granville to
Musgrave, no date, marked "Fair copy
substituted" (extensive revisions).
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Too late I think to "acknowledge."
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