No. 20
               
            
            
               23rd February 1870
               
               My Lord,
                
            
            
               In the Message with which I caused the Legislative Session to be
               opened on the 
15th instant, Your Lordship will observe that I
               stated it to be my intention to recommend such a modification of
               the
present
 present Legislative Constitution as would permit a majority
               of the Members of the Council to be formally returned for
               Electoral Districts.  Such a course seems to me to be
               unavoidable if any suitable arrangements are to be made for the
               local Government under Confederation with Canada; and many
               reasons seem to render it expedient that the change should
               precede any final
arrangement
 arrangement of terms of Union.  Pressure is
               being made to introduce Responsible Government, for which the
               Community is not fit.  That pressure will be more easily
               resisted now, than subsequently to Confederation.  The existing
               form of Government as a Crown Colony could not continue in a
               Confederated Province and it would be unwise in my estimation to
               leave it
in
 in existence so long as to oblige a dangerous change
               immediately after Union.  In time to come no doubt "Responsible
               Government" will be developed; but the leap from a Crown
               Council of Nominees to that first and most easily abused of all
               forms of representative administration, it would be well I think
               to render less sudden by the introduction of some intermediate
               modification.
               
 
            
            
               2.  I therefore submit for Your Lordship's consideration the
               propriety of furnishing me with the necessary authority by Order
               in Council for carrying into effect such changes as may be
               determined upon.  I am advised by the Attorney General that the
               Council as at present established has no power to pass any
               Ordinance to alter its
own
 own constitution.  I confess I should not
               have been of this opinion, though I am aware that any such Bill
               must have been specially reserved for Her Majesty's decision.
               But his view of the case prevents my introducing any measure for
               discussion, and I can only present for your consideration my own
               opinion and what I believe will upon the whole
give
 give satisfaction.
               
               3.  The Council at present consists of twenty two Members of
               whom nine are appointed "in deference to the expressed wishes of
               the people."  The result is that de facto but not de jure they
               are elected for different Districts.  All the disadvantages, if
               any, of legal election are suffered, and more, for aliens and
               transient residents who are not
British
 British subjects have been
               allowed to vote, and there has not latterly been any attempt to
               recognize any franchise, though formerly there was a Franchise
               established by Law in 
Vancouver Island.  I do not see any
               advantage in retaining what may be termed a hybrid Legislative
               body which is neither a true Crown Council, nor an Assembly
               partly
representative
 representative such as I desire to see established.  Of
               the other thirteen Members of the Council eleven are paid
               Officers of the Government.  It will thus be seen that there is
               not a majority at the absolute command of the Government unless
               the Governor presides himself which has not been usual.  But of
               course when the Officers of Government vote compactly together
               under direction the result is not
often
 often doubtful, and the fact
               that the Governor may interpose his casting voice, if he
               chooses, enables it to be said that the form of government is
               practically a denial of representative Institutions.  Now, I,
               for my own part  believe that measures for which the government
               altogether fail to obtain any unofficial support in such a
               community as this which
is
 is very dissimilar in character from
               other Crown Colonies, can scarcely be such as it is desirable to
               pass.  With two unofficial Members in the Executive Council as
               the Governors advisers, I should not be afraid of the
               consequences of allowing the representative Members to have a
               majority of seats in a mixed Legislative Council; while that
               arrangement confers an appearance of
liberality
 liberality which is not
               without its advantages.
               
               4.  The present body moreover is numerically larger than is
               necessary now, or would be desirable after Confederation—and
               there is some inconvenience arising from the attendance of the
               Magistrates belonging to the Country Districts who are nominee Members.
               
            
            
               5.  What I propose therefore is the substitution
of
 of a Council of
               fifteen Members of whom six should be appointed by the
               Crown—The Colonial Secretary, Attorney General, and Chief Commissioner
               of Lands and Words, being ex officio three of those six—and
               that the other nine Members should be formally and legally
               elected for the Districts at present designated, of which the
               limits may require some more precise
definition
 definition.
               
               6.  With such a Legislature I believe that the government would
               morally be stronger and practically exercise quite as much
               control, indeed, would receive more assistance, in the conduct
               of public affairs than has hitherto been the case.  The five
               Official members of the Executive Council can always be members
               of
the
 the Legislative body—three of them ex officio—and with the
               two unofficial members making seven,
               
               
               

                     
                     But it is proposed to have only 6 non elective.
                     
                  
               
               
               
               
               they in case of concerted measures, would only require the
               adhesion of one more member to secure a majority.  It is hard to
               believe that upon any point the government should be so wrong as
               to be unable to obtain that one vote among eight members
               entertaining probably
different
 different opinions upon most points.
               
               8.  I would suggest
that
 that power might be given in the Order in
               Council to settle the limits of these Districts by Proclamation.
               
               9.  As regards a franchise, none is possible, throughout the
               largest part of the Colony.  We must be content with universal
suffrage
               suffrage limited to British subjects.  Hitherto practically the
               members for the districts have been elected by universal
               suffrage including foreigners.  A system which I think it was
               dangerous to introduce, and which, if allowed to continue would
               very probably defeat Confederation.
               
               10.  In conclusion I should observe that I think it desirable
               that a change should be made in the constitution so as to enable
               reelection before finally deciding upon any terms of Union;
               because I doubt
that
 that the true wishes of the Community can be
               represented by the present Council.  The unofficial Members are
               equally divided so far as I know.  And the Officials if left
               altogether to their own discretion in the matter would upon the
               whole prefer to leave things as they are.  I think it would be
               undesirable that so great a change should be carried into effect
               by
an
 an enforced official vote.  Reaction would be sure to follow
               which would give trouble.  While if the question is put fairly
               to the Community, my present impression is that a large majority
               of British subjects will be in favor of Union with Canada on
               advantageous terms.
               
               I have the honor to be,
               My Lord,
               Your most obedient
               humble Servant
               
A. Musgrave
               
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                  Sir F. Rogers
                     Mr Musgrave proposes a reconstitution of the Legislative
                     Council—that is to make it partly nominated & partly
                     
really elected—with a preponderance of the latter.
                     
 
                  
                  
                     As to the power of the present Legislative Council to effect
                     this themselves  
Mr Musgrave apparently has not been made
                     acquainted with 
Lord Granville's despatch of the 
6th March 1869
                     (1273).

  As regards reconstitution I would call to your
                     recollection your minutes on Gov. 6951/68 & 539/61.
                     
 
                  
                  
                     I would adopt 
Govr Musgraves proposals.  
Mr Holland
                     could, if so, be good enough to examine whether this can be done by
                     Order in C. or whether a short Act of Parl
t wd be necessary.
                     
 
                  
                  Sir F. Rogers
                     By
                     
21 & 22 Vict. c. 99
                     Her Majesty was empowered by Order in Council to constitute a
                     Legislature, and by Order in Council of 
11 June 1863 the present
                     Legislative Council was constituted.
                     
 
                  
                  
                     By
                     
26 & 27 Vict. c. 83
                     the former Act was continued until 
December 1863 & no longer.
                     
                     The powers of HM therefore ceased in 
Dec/63, & the sixth
                     section of
                     
29 & 30 Vict. c. 67
                     only kept alive powers which

 were exerciseable
                     
                     by HM at the time of the passing of the Act.
                     
                     I am of opinion that a short Act of Parliament must be passed,
                     and upon the whole it seems best by such Act to enable H Majesty
                     by Order in Council to constitute a new Legislative Council
                     composed according to the suggestions of 
Govr Musgrave.
                     
                     When this Representative Council has been constituted, it will
                     have full power under 28 & 29 
Vict. c. 63 to change its form &c.
                     
                     I have drafted a Bill & Order in Council & send them on.
                     
                  
                  
                  
                   
            
            
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                     Holland to Secretary to the Treasury, 
3 May 1870, forwarding
                     extracts of the despatch along with a copy of a bill drafted
                     to effect the desired constitutional changes for the consideration
                     of 
Mr. Thring.
                     
 
                   
                  
                  
                     Handwritten draft, "Bill to make further provision for the
                     Government of 
British Columbia," no date; extensive revisions.
                     
                   
                     
                     
                        Printed copy of draft bill as noted above, 18 April 1870.
                        
                     
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                        Sir F. Rogers
                           If you approve, this might be at once brought in.  Q
y
                           House of Lords or Commons.  With 
Govr 20/70/3412.
                           
 
                        
                        
                         
                   
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
                
            
            
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                     Printed copy, "Chap. 66.  An Act to make further provision for
                     the Government of 
British Columbia," 
9 August 1870.
                     
                  
                  
                  
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                           Mr Holland
                           I would propose to substitute this for the first 2 1/2 pages of your
                           draft.  It is a rearrangement of the same ideas.
                           
 
                        
                        
                         
                   
               
                
            
            
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                        Draft reply, 
Granville to 
Musgrave, no date, marked "Fair copy
                        substituted" (extensive revisions).
                        
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                           Too late I think to "acknowledge."
                           
                        
                        
                         
                   
               
                
            
            
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