1109. N. America
               
               
               
               
                     British Museum
                     
                  
               June 2nd 1848.
               
               Dear Sir,
                
            
            
            
            
            
            Subsequently to the last conversation I had the honor of holding
               with 
Mr Hawes and yourself I was informed by 
Sir J.H. Pelley that the 
Govt had determined to give 
the Island to the Hudsons Bay
               Company. Understanding that the matter was settled, I gave up all
               intention of taking any further part in this, because I did not believe
               that the Hudsons Bay Com
y could, or would, effect the colonization of
               the Country. In consequence, however, of what passed between a friend
               of mine and 
Sir J H Pelley, I waited upon that Gentleman. He then
               offered to make us a grant of all the Coal Mines, upon terms which he
               specified in detail, and promised at the same time to assist us in
               procuring the Capital necessary to commence working the mines. I was
               therefore induced by these liberal promises to take up the scheme again,
               and I expected that we should be able to sail in the Course of the
               Summer. Gentlemen having been sent over from 
New York with the object
               of entering into arrangements for procuring the supply of Coal for the
               steamers about

 to run on the N.W. Coast, it was essential that our
               plans should be arranged as speedily as possible. But on waiting upon
               
Sir J H Pelley, in order to bring matters to a final settlement, He
               informed me that 
Sir George Simpson had been in communication with 
Mr
                  Aspinwall, the owners of the Steamers destined to run on the NW. coast,
               and had issued orders that the coal Mines in 
Vancouver's Island should
               be immediately occupied, with a view to supplying coal to the steamers.
               
Sir J H Pelley therefore declined to say any thing more, untill he had
               communicated with 
Sir G. Simpson, which could not be earlier than next
               September. When I represented to 
Sir J H Pelley that some
               arrangements should be made at once, and that the opportunity for
               securing a Sale for the coal would otherwise be lost; and that I had
               been working for the proposed colony for some time, on the strength of
               his promises, 
Sir J H Pelley denied having made any promise or offer
               whatsoever!
Now I only trouble you with these facts, because I think it of
               importance that 
Earl Grey should be aware of what dependance is to be
               placed on the promises of the 
Govr of the HB
Coy and of the
               consequence of the step about to be taken, of putting the HB 
Coy in
               possession of 
Vancouver Island.
I beg you will believe that I have no interest in the affair,
               farther than that which attaches to a Subject upon which I have bestowed
               considerable time and Attention; and in proposing to undertake the
               management of the coal speculation, I did so, only because it offered me
               the means of carrying

 into effect my scheme of founding a Successful
               Colony. But I bring these facts under your notice, for the information
               of 
Earl Grey, because they are sufficient Evidence that 
Sir J.H
                  Pelley's professions of liberality and disinterestedness in offering to
               colonize the country, are utterly insincere: And I have been warned,
               
on all hands, that I should find this out at last. The Hudsons Bay
               
Coy want to get 
the island into their own hands in order that they
               may 
prevent any Colony there, except of their own servants and
               dependants. I am anxious that 
Earl Grey should be informed, that there
               is 
no one who is acquainted with the System of the HB 
Coy, who does not coincide in this opinion.
I cannot refrain from expressing an Earnest hope that 
Earl Grey
               will pause in taking any final step in this matter, untill he has
               availed himself of the information to be derived from indifferent and
               independant witnesses, for example, the officers of HMS's 
Cormorat,
               
Modeste, 
America &c &c as well as from other persons who are intimately
               acquainted, with the proceedings of the Comp
y.
There is not a servant of the Coy who would not leave the
               Service at the first opportunity; and there is not one of those who have
               left, who does not loudly condemn the conduct and policy of the Coy.
            
            
            The servants of the HBCo in the Oregon are a poor and ignorant
                  class, chiefly of the lowest order of the Scotch. They are not well
                  paid, and the Comy having the monopoly of all the supply of the
                  necessaries of life, they are bound in a state of practical slavery to their masters.
 order of the Scotch. They are not well
                  paid, and the Comy having the monopoly of all the supply of the
                  necessaries of life, they are bound in a state of practical slavery to their masters. 
            
            
            Now it will be perfectly manifest to 
Earl Grey, that the HB
Coy
               are unable to found an independant colony, because no independant man,
               no gentleman, will ever settle under their sway. They will, if they get
               
the island, Extend their present system. They will get a large
               settlement of labourers and workmen who will be little better than
               slaves. All the Capital will be in their own hands. But surely that is
               not the sort of Colony which His Lordship desires to be formed, as the
               representative and model of British power in the Pacific Ocean.
There is another mode of ascertaining what the HB
Coy are likely
               to do. What have they done in their vast possessions on the East Side
               of the 
Rocky Mountains?  Have they produced one Single Contented thriving or prosperous Settlement, in any
               part of their vast estates?
               They have not.
Moreover is not Colonization opposed to the interests of the HBCo.
               necessarily? Must it not interfere with their monopoly of the Fur
               trade, and still more with their import trade of manufactured goods, on
               which they make such vast profits?
            
            
            If 
Vancouvers Island gets into the Hands of that Company, His Lordship may be assured that no colony will
               ever exist there.
 
            
            
            In urging upon 
Lord Grey the Strong reasons which present
               themselves, for pausing before giving this Island to the HB 
Coy, I
               assume that His Lordship is well aware of its daily increasing
               importance to Great Britain. Prospects of extensive steam communication
               to all parts of the Pacific Ocean, are rapidly opening. A Project is
               even now entertained of running steam ships from Calefornia to China,
               and a route is proposed by which the 
London mail from Canton may be
               conveyed in 45 days. 
Mr Enderby's plan for extending the whale
               Fishery will bring a considerable number of ships into the northern
               aeas, and that gentleman contemplates leaving a part of them to refit in
               
Vancouvers Island.
It does then seem to be running a great risk, to place the fortunes
               of such an Enterprise in the hands of a Comy, notoriously close and narrow in their policy, exclusively commercial in their character
               and
               objects, and whose interests are, of necessity, diametrically opposed to
               those of an independant Settlement.
            
            
            Nor is it to be forgotten that the Charter of Trade which the
               
Coy possess will expire in 10. or 12. years; and, in the event of the 
Govt then refusing to renew it, it is not easy to see what legitimate or beneficial position

 the 
Coy will occupy, as the proprietors of a
               tract of land on the N.W. Coast. It would be even doubtful whether
               they could continue, in such circumstances, to exist as a Company any
               longer.
In offering these observations I am aware I have no claim
               whatsoever upon his Lordships attention, further than that I have
               bestowed considerable time and attention on the subject on which I
               speak.
            
            
            I have no rival Scheme to propose. I did indeed formerly bring
               under your notice the advantages to be gained by forming a company
               for the purpose of Colonizing the Country. But I know how difficult
               it is, in the present state of money affairs in Europe to obtain
               capital, or to form a company: and though I have my own opinion how the
               object in view may be effected, I do not wish to trouble you with any
               observations, further than what are warranted by the immediate object of
               this letter, viz:, to do whatever I can, to prevent the Country, which
               has been for so long a time a matter of so much interest to myself,
               falling into such hands as would for ever annihilate its usefulness for
               the purposes of Colonization.
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
               Minutes by CO staff
                
               
               
                  
                  
                     Mr Merivale.
                     
                     I am unable to say whether the statements advanced against the Hudson's
                     Bay Company in this Letter are true or not. The writer apparently
                     writes as if he was sure of his facts. I believe you have or had the
                     papers connected with the Colonization of 
Van Couver's Island before you lately.
                     
 
                  
                  
                   
               
               
               
                  
                  
                     Mr Hawes
                     Mr Fitzgerald stated the same facts, as regards his communications
                     with 
Sir J Pelly, to me the other day. Of course nothing can be said
                     by me on the alleged breach of faith, further than that 
Mr Fitzgerald is one who is I am Sure persuaded of the truth of all he advances. As
                     to the subject itself; I have in pursuance of direction from 
Lord Grey
                     told the Solicitor for the H.B.C. that 
Ld Grey would require some
                     distinct condition to enforce colonization in the grant of 
Vancouver's
                        Island, and, also, some distinct statement, from the Company, of their
                     present intentions respecting it. This was only last week, & I have not
                     yet had any answer.
 
                  
                  
                  
                   
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  
                  
                     Thank 
Mr F. for this communicat
n — It is obviously necessary
                     to be very strict in exact
g from the H.B.Co efficient securities for their proper use of any powers conferred
                     upon them.
                     
 
                
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
               
                  People in this document
                  
                        Aspinwall 
                        
                  
                        Blackwood, Arthur Johnstone
                  
                        Dundas, Lieutenant Adam D.
                        
                  
                        Enderby, Charles
                  
                        FitzGerald,  James Edward
                        
                  
                        Grey, Third Earl,  Henry George 
                  
                        Hawes, Benjamin
                  Merivale, Herman
                  
                        Pelly, Sir John Henry
                        
                  
                        Simpson, Sir George
                
               
                  Vessels in this document
                  HMS America, 1810-1867
                  HMS Cormorant, 1842-1853
                  HMS Modeste, 1837-1866
                
               
                  Places in this document
                  London
                  New York
                  Oregon Territory, or Columbia District
                  The Rocky Mountains
                  Vancouver Island