Hudson's Bay House
                     
                  
               November 7th 1851 
            
            
            I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of 
Mr Under Secretary Hawes' letter of the 
3rd Instant 
               transmitting, for any observations which the Directors of the Hudson's Bay Company
               may have to offer, the copy of a letter from Rear Admiral Moresby to the Board of
               Admiralty containing a Report connected with 
Vancouver's Island.
Respecting the price of provisions supplied or to be supplied to
               Her Majesty's Ships I have nothing to remark, until I receive a reply to
               a letter which I have written to the Board of Admiralty requesting to be
               informed of the prices complained of as being overcharged by the
               Company's
 Agent at 
Vancouver's Island. I may however observe that there
               is a market price there as everywhere else, and that 
Admiral Moresby's
               remark "that the interest of a Company with exclusive rights of Trade is
               incompatible with the free and liberal reception of 
an
an emigrant
               Community" is not applicable to the Hudson's Bay Company inasmuch as
               that Company neither possesses, nor exercises, any exclusive right of
               trade in 
Vancouver's Island.
On the subject of the Hudson's Bay Company's 
               
                  † This Letter has not been returned to the Dt. I do not know with whom it is resting.
                  
                Reserve of land Around
               
Fort Victoria, I beg to refer your Lordship to my letter of the
               
10th September from which it will be seen that the quantity of land reserved for the
               purposes of the Fur Trade, instead of being 20 square miles, is not
               likely to exceed six; and that this land was in the Companys possession
               before the division of the Country by the Boundary Treaty with the
               United States. Should any addition to that quantity be required the
               Company will pay for it as other Settlers do.
The Puget Sound Agricultural Company, which I beg to observe is
               quite distinct from the Hudson's Bay Company,
 require a considerable
               tract of land for the pasturage of their large flocks and herds, and as
               they are by the terms of the boundary treaty liable to be dispossessed
               at any time of their lands at 
Puget Sound, they have, in order to provide against this contingency, judged it expedient to
               secure lands in
               
Vancouver's Island.
This measure Your Lordship 
will
will readily percieve is not only
               essentially necessary for the preservation of the Sheep and Cattle, but
               is also of the first importance to the Colony, as it is from that source
               alone that Settlers can be supplied with Stock for their farms, At the
               same time I would observe that it is the intention of the Puget Sound
               Company to relinquish (Should it be required) such parts of their
               reserve as may be considered peculiarly adapted to the wants of Settlers.
               I have further to observe in reference to 
Admiral Moresby's
               
recommendation that a Naval Station should be formed at 
Esquimault
                  Harbour, that if any portion of the land there be required for public
               purposes, it can according to the Grant be resumed by the Government at
               any time; but it is highly desirable that the Company should have early
               notice of the
 intentions of Government, as otherwise difficulties may occur from previous appropriations.
               Admiral Moresby's
 statement in regard to the Miner's 
clearly
clearly shews
               that his information on that subject has not been drawn from an
               impartial source. He seems not to have been aware that those Miners
               were not Settlers, but the Servants of the Company engaged under
               Contracts in this Country. From the moment of the arrival of these men
               on 
the Island they shewed that they had other views than those they professed. Not finding Coal
               so soon as they expected they demanded 2/6
               p
r day each in addition to their Contract Wages.
 
            
            
            In order that the Mining operation might not be stopped this demand
               was conceded, but this did not satisfy them, and they first struck work,
               excited insubordination among the Company's Servants, and then deserted
               in a body (with the exception of the Superintendent). They went to the
               Gold diggings in California, were not successful, and notwithstanding
               the ill usage they complain of, returned to 
Vancouver's Island and
               demanded 
payment
payment of their Wages for the time they had been away. In the
               meantime the Company had to send out other Miners in their place at
               great expence.
Admiral Moresby states that 320 Acres of Land are offered by the
               American Authorities to every married Couple willing to settle on the American side
               of 
the Strait, and that such offers must greatly impede
               the Colonization of 
Vancouver's Island.
 
            
            
            On this Subject there can be but one opinion, but I do not agree
               with him when he infers that the Settlers in 
Vancouver's Island are dependent on the Hudson's Bay Company, as purchasers of Land there are perfectly
               independent.
I was not aware that Coal had been found in the locality mentioned
               by 
the Admiral. The Hudsons Bay Company have had the Country near the
               mouth of 
Frasers River about 75 miles north of the river 
Sinahomis examined by a practical miner, but though the Strata are of the
               carboniferous order no coal was found.
               I have the honor to be
 
               My Lord,
               Your Lordships mo: obed
t 
               humble Servant
               
JH Pelly
               
               Minutes by CO staff
               
                
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                     Mr Peel
                     1 It seems from this that 
Sir J. Pelly is already in communication
                     with the Admiralty as to the price of provisions at 
Vancouver's Island, being the only point which immediately interests the latter office: apparently therefore
                     there is no occasion for further correspondence with the Admiralty.
 
                  
                  
                  2. The reservation of 
Port Esquimault by Government for a naval station is a question for 
Lord Grey's consideration. 
Sir J. Pelly only observes that it is desirable the Company should have early notice before any
                     Government reserve is formed.
3. The rest of the letter relates to subjects already often
                     considered. There can be no doubt of the power of the Company to impede
                     & discourage the settlement of 
the island, if they are determined to do so. Whether their servants do in fact discourage it,
                     or whether the
                     want of progress there is owing to the natural deficiencies of 
the island as compared with more favoured regions, to the attractions of
                     California, or (as here suggested) in part to the efforts making by the
                     Am
n Government to attract colonists to 
Oregon — are questions of fact
                     which I fear we have no means of satisfactorily solving.
 
               
               
               
                  
                  The truth is that without incurring a large expence for wh neither the Govt nor the Hudson's bay Company are prepared it is impossible effectually to colonize
                     this distant Island. Put by.
                  
                  
                   
                
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
               
               
                  People in this document
                  
                        Blackwood, Arthur Johnstone
                  
                        Grey, Right Honorable, Second Baronet, Sir George
                        
                  
                        Grey, Third Earl,  Henry George 
                  
                        Hawes, Benjamin
                  Merivale, Herman
                  
                        Moresby, Sir Fairfax
                        
                  
                        Peel, Sir Frederick
                        
                  
                        Pelly, Sir John Henry
                        
                
               
                  Places in this document
                  Esquimalt Harbour
                  Fort Rupert, or T'sakis
                  Fraser River
                  Juan de Fuca Strait
                  Oregon Territory, or Columbia District
                  Puget Sound
                  Snohomish River
                  Vancouver Island
                  Victoria