No. 44
               
            
            
               13 October 1858
               
            
            
               1.  I have the honor to acknowledge receipt of your Despatch of
               the 
16th of August 1858, No. 10, transmitting to me copy of a
               letter to 
Lord Derby, with a Petition to the Crown, from a
               gentleman named 
Nias, residing at 
San Francisco, California.
               
               2.  As you have thought it proper to submit this letter and
               Petition for my report, on account of the great importance of
               the
subject
 
               subject, I have to offer the following remarks in respect to
               the Petition.
               
               3. 
Mr Nias says that
               
               
James Douglas Esqre has sold large numbers of Town lots in said
               City of 
Victoria, and large tracts of suburban lands in vicinity
               of said City to Capitalists and Speculators without annexing
               conditions to said sale, requiring such Town lots and Suburban
               tracts to be improved with substantial improvements within a
               reasonable time.  That said lots had been sold 50 and 60 to one
               person, at the Government price £5 and £10 per lot; and in
               reality worth from £50 to £1000 and upwards in some instances;
               and are now held at from 20 to 200 times the first cost.
               
               
 
            
            
               4.  The allegation contained in this part of 
Mr Nias' Petition
               has, I presume, application to my public acts as Governor of
               
Vancouver's Island for the Crown, and Agent of the Hudson's Bay
               Company, my signature in the latter capacity being attached to
               all Town lot Deeds, and has, I suppose, no application to any of
               my acts as a private individual, otherwise it is utterly and
               totally untrue, as neither directly nor indirectly has one acre
               of land been sold for me, or in my behalf on 
Vancouver's Island.
               
               5.  All public land in 
Vancouver's Island is sold by the
               Colonial Surveyor in the public offices of the Colony at the
               fixed Government price of
20
 
               20 shillings an acre, and no change
               has, up to this day, been made; neither has the Governor any
               authority to alter that standard price.
               
               6.  In no instance have Town or Suburban lots been sold by the
               Colonial Government, for the reason that the colonization law of
               
Vancouver's Island, provides that no grant of land shall contain
               less than 20 acres.
               
               7.  Tracts of different sizes have been offered for sale by
               individual proprietors of land in this Colony; and the Hudson's
               Bay Company to meet the public demand have sold a few suburban
               and a great number of Town lots near 
Fort Victoria, where they
               hold about 1200 acres of land
belonging
 
               belonging to their Fur Trade
               concern.  The Hudson's Bay Company have always sold suburban
               lots, consisting of 5 acres of land, at the rate of £25 for each
               lot; and Town lots measuring 120 X 60 feet, at first sold for
               £10.8.4, have now risen to £20.16.8 a lot.
               
               8.  The Petition states that such Town lots and suburban tracts
               have been sold at the Government price £5 and £10 per lot, and
               are now held at from 20 to 200 times "the first cost," a
               statement that is evidently incorrect as respects the actual
               sale price; and is equally so as respects their present value,
               the Government land being still sold at 20 shillings an acre and
               thousands of acres being in the market for sale without a
               purchaser and any number of Town lots may
now
  
               now be bought at the
               original price of £20.16.8.  There was a time last summer when
               private sales of small parcels of land in good situations were
               made at the rate of £100 an acre, but that unhealthy inflation
               was temporary and met with no countenance from Government, and
               that price could never as a rule be quoted as the value of land
               in 
Vancouver's Island.
               
               9.  We have always endeavoured to check the operations of
               capitalists who purchase land merely for re-sale at a profit,
               though it is not clear to my mind that, if practicable, it would
               in all cases be desirable to prevent such operations.  Without
               however entering into that question at present, I will remark
               that
Vancouver's Vancouver's Island
   
               Vancouver's Island   
               Vancouver's Island has enjoyed a remarkable freedom from
               the speculations of Capitalists.  The only large tract of land,
               about 6000 acres, sold in one lot, was purchased by the Hudson's
               Bay Company for their coal works at 
Nanaimo.  In some few other
               instances the lots have rather exceeded 500 acres, but generally
               speaking, lots have been of moderate size, and purchased solely
               with the view of actual settlement.
               
               10.  The following synopsis of sales of Town lots and
               agricultural land effected since the commencement of this
               present year made up from a return received from the Colonial
               Surveyor will further show that Her Majesty's Colony of
               
Vancouver's Island has not fallen
into
 
               into the hands of 
Mr Nias'
               dreaded American "Land Grabber," and also the incorrectness of
               the assertion, in the Petition, that as many as 50 and 60 lots
               have been sold to one person.
               
               The total number of Town lots sold is 1142, equal to an area of
               190 1/3 acres, excluding, of course, the spaces retained for
               streets.
               
            
            
               These 1142 lots were purchased by 434 individuals, which will
               give but 2 5/9 lots or 70 17/100 perches, or about 2112 square
               yards of land to each purchaser.
               
            
            
               These facts alone would suffice to answer 
Mr Nias' assertion,
               but to place the subdivision in a clearer light, it may be
               stated that as many as 203 of the lots were sold
singly
 
               singly to 209
               different purchasers, a few of such single lots having been
               purchased by more than one person on joint account.
               
               Another illustration of the very general subdivision of property
               is afforded by the fact that for the limited number of 8 of the
               lots there were as many as 17 purchasers.
               
            
            
               On the other hand, some single individuals did purchase more
               than one lot and probably for good reasons.  Practically a Town
               could not have been established had every individual purchaser
               been limited to the acquisiton of one lot of 60 X 120 feet, for
               so small a quantity of land would not have sufficed for many of
               the
domestic
  
               domestic and business purposes for which the purchases were
               made.
               
               Besides, such a limitation would have banished Capital entirely
               from investment in Town land.
               
            
            
               Agricultural lands, sold at £1 per acre
               
               
               
               Saanich Disct  47 Purchasers of 38 sect
ns form
g together
               11,210 acres
               
               
Cowitchin   do 34     "         27   "       "         14,620   "
               
               Lake        do  2     "          2   "       "            450   "
               
               
Sooke       do  8     "          8   "       "          2,040   "
               
               
Victoria &c do 35     "         35   "       "          1,894  "
               
               ___              ___                        _____
               Total         126     "        110   "         "          30214   "
               
               which gives a result of nearly 239 acres, certainly a very
               moderate quantity to each purchaser.
               
               11.  The Petition however, respects a subject of great
               importance.  I will therefore take the liberty of making some
               remarks on the system recommended by 
Mr Nias for effecting
               sales of land.  There is in my opinion no
objection
 
               objection to the
               system which has always been a favorite theory of my own.  The
               only question is whether that system could be enforced in all
               cases with advantage to a country in the condition of
               
Vancouver's Island.
               
               12.  On the rush of emigration to this Colony last summer, I
               greatly feared that the operations of land speculators might
               prove detrimental to the rising interests of 
Victoria, and as
               mere speculative purchases of land are repugnant to the whole
               system of colonization established in 
Vancouver's Island, I was
               prompted by my own views on the subject to make it a rule, as a
               condition necessary to perfect title,
that
  
               that "substantial
               improvement" should be made within a reasonable time on all Town
               lots held in the Town of 
Victoria; but I was restrained from
               taking that step, by considerations as to the probable influence
               of such a measure in checking the progress of legitimate
               settlement, and I will here submit a few of those reasons for
               your information.
               
               13.  After striving for many years without much success to
               attract a population to this Colony, it struck me on reflection
               that it would be absurd to place a check on emigration, by
               imposing onerous conditions on purchasers of land, the very
               instant that people began to come into the Country; with
               thousands of square miles
of
 
               of uninhabited wilderness containing
               as good land as any in the District of 
Victoria, and equal in
               all other natural advantages, it seemed an excess of caution to
               guard the District of 
Victoria with such jealous vigilance.  It
               also occurred to me that the value of land like that of other
               property is regulated by the law of supply and demand, and that
               with so much waste land as there is in this Colony, a high
               speculative price could never be long maintained.  And also,
               that every person investing Capital in the purchase of landed
               property, becomes interested in the prosperity of that Country,
               where his Capital is invested, and is naturally led
from
 
               from motives
               of self interest, to seek its advancement and also that the
               phrase "substantial improvement" is a vague term, which may be
               evaded in many ways, a fence or a log hut may, for instance, be
               legally defined as "substantial improvements," it being in short
               exceedingly difficult to enforce the observance of any
               regulation, militating so directly as that would, with public
               opinion and convenience; neither would its enforcement be in all
               cases judicious—a laboring man, for example, is desirous of
               investing his savings in the purchase of a Town lot, but he is
               told no, you cannot have a Town lot unless you have enough money
to
 
               to build a house also, and not being possessed of sufficient
               funds, he goes his way disappointed, and the Town loses probably
               an honest and industrious inhabitant, who under a lenient system
               might have become a useful member of society.  The scarcity and
               exorbitant price of building materials and labor might, as
               happened, at one time here last summer, absolutely put it out
               of the power of a poor settler, to undertake immediate
               improvements.
               
               14.  Arguments in short appeared to multiply in favor of the
               unfettered sale of land, and I in consequence gave up the idea
               of imposing any restrictions, presuming, moreover; that every
               one
would
 
               would consult his own interest, and do what was best for the
               improvement of his property.  To take any other steps appeared
               very like killing the Country by over legislation.
               
               15.  I would here also remark that there is a remedy against
               speculative purchases of Town or other land, which may be
               applied whenever such purchases interfere with the progress of a
               country, or the convenience of the inhabitants, which is to
               impose a tax on all unimproved land.
               
            
            
               16.  The evils that have arisen in 
Oregon, from the conditions
               attached to the pre-emption law, are very great, having caused a
               vast amount of perjury and unsettled Titles.
To explain
 
               To explain this, a
               person is required there to take oath, that he intends to reside
               upon and improve his claim, or in other words, to make it his
               home.  He receives on those terms 160 acres of land, and
               forthwith sells it, making his sons perhaps perjure themselves
               in the same manner.  I have been told that in consequence of
               that law, there is scarcely a good title in 
Oregon, as few
               persons have complied with the conditions of residence and
               improvement; questions of title are therefore constantly coming
               before the Courts of the Country, and the utmost uncertainty and
               confusion
prevails
  prevails.
               
               17.  Having hurriedly thrown together these remarks on the
               subject of land sales, I may further state, that the rapid
               growth of the Town of 
Victoria has been remarkable, and if the
               number of houses can be considered as such, I do not think any
               system could be attended with a greater amount of substantial
               improvement, than the system we have hitherto followed.
               
               18.  I have in conclusion to remark that Her Majesty's
               Government may rest assured that I will not fail to protect the
               public interests, and to prevent as far as lies within
my
 
               my power,
               any wasteful or partial dealings with the public land of this
               Colony or 
British Columbia.
               
               I have etc.
               
               
            
            
            
            
               Minutes by CO staff
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  
                  
                     Copy of this s
d go to the H.B.C. and I suppose also to the Em.
                     Com. for their report though I s
d be disposed to be satisfied
                     entirely with 
Govr Douglas' explanation.  If the Em. Com.
                     concurs in the Gov
rs views of the subject and 
Sir E. Lytton
                     agrees the Gov
rs conduct as to the sale of land so far as here
                     described might be approved?
                     
 
               
               
                  
                  
                     I wish a report from the Em. Commrs before passing any opinion.
                     
                  
                  
                  
                   
                
            
            
               Other documents included in the file
               
                
                  
                  
                     Draft, Colonial Office to 
H.H. Berens, Hudson's Bay Company, 
6
                        January 1859, forwarding copy of the despatch.
                     
                  
                  
                  
                     Minutes by CO staff
                     
                      
                        
                        Mr Blackwood
                           A copy of this despatch to be sent to the Emigration
                           Comrs in L[ithographed] F[orm] with reference to their
                           report of 
27h Jany.
                           
 
                        
                        
                         
                   
               
                
            
            
               Other documents included in the file
               
               
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                     Draft, 
Elliot to Emigration Commissioners, 
22 December 1858,
                     forwarding copy of the despatch for report.
                     
 
            
            
               
                  People in this document
                  
                        Berens, Henry Hulse
                  
                        Blackwood, Arthur Johnstone
                  
                        Carnarvon, Earl
                  
                        Douglas, Sir James
                  
                        Elliot, Thomas Frederick
                  Jadis, Vane
                  Lytton, Sir Edward George Earle Bulwer
                  Merivale, Herman
                  Nias, George Elmes
                  
                        Stanley, 14th Earl of Derby Edward George Geoffrey Smith
                        
                
               
                  Places in this document
                  British Columbia
                  Cowichan Region
                  Nanaimo
                  Oregon Territory, or Columbia District
                  Saanich Peninsula
                  San Francisco
                  Sooke
                  Vancouver Island
                  Victoria