Peel to Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)
               
            
            
               
               
                     Treasury Chambers
                     
                  
               2 September 1862
                
            
            
               In answer to your letter of the 
22nd Ult. relating to the Hudsons
               Bay Company, I am directed by the Lords Commissioners of Her
               Majesty's Treasury to acquaint you for the information of the 
Duke of
                  Newcastle that My Lords have wished to allow to that Company all that
               they could fairly claim on the resumption by the Crown of 
Vancouvers
                  Island. They claimed an unexpectedly
large
 large balance of £53,569
               afterwards reduced by the withdrawal of an Item of £15,113 to £38,456
               for which they proposed that they should be paid, as a compensation,
               a sum of £35,000.
               
               They were however unable to satisfy 
Mr Andoe and 
Mr Murdoch on
               behalf of the Government, that more than £29,000 ought to be paid to
               them, and even that sum included some Items which 
Mr Andoe
               passed, not as a matter

 of account, but by way of concession only,
               and on the ground of Public convenience, and the Interests of the
               Colony.
               
               My Lords therefore considered that they were acting in a liberal
               spirit towards the Company when they offered a sum of £30,000 in full
               satisfaction of their claims, and they had trusted that the Company
               would have accepted that sum without further reference to the
               particular claim, which they had not fully succeeded in establishing,
               for
the
 the passage and maintenance of Settlers.
               
               In the claim, as it was first made by the Company, they assumed that
               of Seven Hundred Settlers expected to be sent out to the Colony, one
               half would be taken up by the Puget's Sound Company, and they charged
               the Government, in consequence, with Passage-Money for Three Hundred
               and Fifty Settlers amounting, at £23 each Settler, to £8050, and with
               £17,500 for Maintenance at the rate of £50 a head.
It
 It then appeared,
               as stated in a letter from the Governor of the Company, that only
               about Six Hundred and Thirty went out, that the sum spent in
               Maintenance was very much under £17,500, and that the cost of
               Maintenance was only £23 for each Settler instead of £50.
               
               That took off £9,450 from the original claim; but, on the other hand,
               it was said that the Puget's Company took only Eighty, and that the
               550 others
were
 were all chargeable to the Colony: and, the cost of the
               additional 200 Settlers for Passage-Money and Maintenance being about
               £9200—the Claim as amended came out nearly the same in amount as
               before.
               
               My Lords concurred with 
Mr Andoe and 
Mr Murdoch in not thinking the
               explanation satisfactory either generally or as to why the first
               statement of numbers should have been erroneous, and they considered
               that the Government was entitled to take
that
 that number as the basis of
               the calculations.  They think it, however far better that the terms
               for the reconveyance of 
Vancouver's Island should, if possible, be
               made acceptable to both parties than that recourse should be had to
               Legal Proceedings—and £5,000 being the difference between the sums
               asked by and offered to the Company—they would not, desirous as they
               are of assisting His Grace
in
 in coming to an amicable settlement with
               the Company, object to give half that difference and thus to raise
               the balance payable to the Company to a sum of £32,500.
               
               I am, Sir
               Your obedient Servant
               
F. Peel
               
               
               Minutes by CO staff
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  
                  
                     I shall be obliged to 
Mr Elliot if he will see 
Mr Maynard telling
                     him that I would have done so myself it I had been in Town.  I do
                     hope the H.B.C. will be wise enough to accept this compromise.  I am
                     sure they must feel that I have done all in my power for them.
                     
                     I am convinced that the Treasury will not consent to more even if I
                     thought it right to [propose] it which I [one word off microfilm] do
                     not.
                     
                  
                  
                   
               
               
                  
                  
                     [A partially illegible minute from 
Elliot is included on the microfilm
                     at this point, but has been reproduced, almost in its entirety, on the
                     following page.  This second, more clearly written copy, has been
                     utilized.]
                     
 
               
                
                  
                  
                     I saw 
Mr Maynard today and I am happy to say that he has promised to
                     advise the Hudson's Bay Company to agree in the compromise—advice
                     which I see that he expects to be followed as a matter of course.  As
                     he is just leaving Town, and it is so desirable to secure a favorable
                     issue, I have ventured to sign and despatch the enclosed letter
                     without delay.
                     
                  
                  
                     A good arrangement for both Parties.
                     
                  
                  
                   
               
                
                  
                  
                     Mr Elliot
                     The sum proposed in this letter from the Treasury viz
t £32,500
                     is, I think, as much as the HBC
o are entitled to, even on a liberal
                     consideration of their claim.  But I would suggest whether it would
                     not be better that you should have personal communication with some
                     member of the direction or with 
Mr Maynard before the offer is made to them officially. It would I think facilitate the settlement
                     of

                     the matter very much.
                     
 
                  
                  
                  
                   
            
            
               Other documents included in the file
               
                
                  
                  
                     Colonial Office to 
H.H. Berens, 
11 September 1862, forwarding copy of
                     the letter and proposing the sum of £32,500 in full settlement of
                     their claim.