Head to Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)
               
            
            
            
            
               I have the honor to call your attention to a claim made upon this
               Company in reference to a small lot of land in 
Victoria Vancouvers
                  Island which has been frequently alluded to in the correspondence
               between Her Majesty's Government as "Lot Z."
               
               The Town lot in question is a portion of the lands held by the
               Hudsons Bay Company previous to the Grant of the Island to the
               Company.  It
is
 is situated in the rear of the ground on which the
               Government buildings have since been erected.  In 
March 1861 it was
               sold by 
Mr Dallas, at that time the Hudsons Bay Company's principal
               Agent at 
Victoria to a 
Mr Lowenberg, who in 
May of that year
               attempted to take possession by fencing the land.  This proceeding
               was resisted by 
Governor Douglas by whose direction the fence erected
               by 
Mr Lowenberg was pulled down.  On the 
9th May 1861 Mr Dugald
                  Mactavish in a letter addressed to 
Governor Douglas called his
               Excellency's attention to the proceedings adopted against 
Mr
                  Lowenberg and informed him that the land was sold to him (
MrLowenberg Lowenberg
               Lowenberg
               Lowenberg) sometime since by the Hudsons Bay Company but 
Governor
                  Douglas declined to grant any redress and it was found necessary for
               this Company to refer that and their other claims in 
Vancouvers
                  Island to the Colonial Office and ultimately on the 
3rd of February
                  1862 an Agreement was entered into between Her Majestys Government
               and this Company settling all such questions and entitled "Deed of
               Arrangement for Settling the Claim of the Company to certain lands in
               
Vancouvers Island."  The first provision of that Agreements is as
               follows—
               
               "That all sales made by the said Company previous to the 
first day of
                  January 1862of
 of any portion of the lands so occupied by them in the
               
Victoria District as aforesaid before the 
thirtieth day of January
                  1849 including water frontages and the spaces between high and low
               water mark abutting on such portions of land shall be valid and
               effectual as against Her said Majesty Her heirs and Successors.
               
               
               And the fifth provision limits the land to be surrendered to Her
               Majestys Government to "the site of the New Government buildings
               
so far as the old fence, in the rear dividing it from a farm
               known as Bexley or 'Beckney'"
               or in other words as far as the limit of
Lot
 Lot Z.
               
               On the 
4th instant Mr Lowenberg addressed a letter to the Secretary
               of the Hudsons Bay Company (copy of which is hereunto annexed)
               complaining that proceedings have been taken in the Courts of
               
Vancouvers Island by the Attorney General of the Colony to prevent
               the recovery of the land in question.  
Mr Lowenbergs letter having
               been referred to the Companys Solicitor he has advised to the
               following effect—
               
               
               "Referring to your letter of the 
11th instant inclosing copy of one
               received from 
Mr Lowenberg it appears to me that the
Hudsons
 Hudsons Bay
               Company having sold the land in question to 
Mr Lowenberg were bound
               to put him into possession of it; but on the other hand I am of
               opinion that upon the footing of the arrangement as defined by the
               Governors letter to the 
Duke of Newcastle of the 
1st August last the
               Crown can have no claim to it and ought not therefore to interfere to
               prevent 
Mr Lowenberg being put into possession of it.
               
               "I assume that the land in question was part of that which the Company
               claimed as having belonged to them before the Grant from the Crown
and
               and their rights in respect of which were arranged with the
               Government in the year 
1862 (February) modified by the Correspondence
               in 
July and 
August.
               
               It seems to me to have been quite clear that the Government ratified
               all sales which had been made by the Company; and those; to 
Mr
                  Lowenberg were therefore included; and I should recommend that the
               circumstances be now brought under the notice of the 
Duke of
                  Newcastle and that he be requested to give directions for any claim
               on the part of the Crown in regard to this land being withdrawn.
               
               
               Seeing that the land in
question
 question is clearly within the meaning of the
               first clause of the Agreement and that the land surrendered to the
               Crown is expressly limited by the 5
th Clause to the old fence
               between the site of the Government buildings and the lot in question
               the Committee of the Hudsons Bay Company cannot doubt but that His
               Grace the Secretary of State for the Colonies will give directions
               that 
Mr Lowenberg's rights should be respected.
               
               The paragraph in my letter of the 
1st August and to which 
Mr
                  Maynard refers is as follows—
               
               On the part of the Hudsons Bay Company we are ready to surrender any
right
               right or title the Company may have in the Lots marked in 
Mr
                  Mactavish's plan with the letter Z as well as the Lot 1605 on which
               the Post Office is built and the two lots adjoining thereto, marked
               1605 and 1607.  We are also ready to surrender the Lot at the foot of
               Broughton Street in exchange for the Lot at the foot of Fort Street,
               on which it was originally intended that the Harbour Masters house
               should be built.  In making these concessions however it must be
               understood that the Hudsons Bay Company surrender only the rights
               which they actually possess and that the arrangement is made subject
               to and saving the rights
of
 of third parties (if any) to whom the lots
               in question may have been already conveyed.
               
               
               I have the honor to be,
               Sir,
               Your most obedient Servant
               
Edmund Head
               
               Governor
               
               
               Minutes by CO staff
               
                
                  
                  
                     Mr Elliot
                     I suppose that this claim of the Hudsons Bay Company to a certain lot
                     of Land in 
Victoria will be referred in the first instance to the
                     Land Board?
                     
 
                  
                  
                   
            
            
               Documents enclosed with the main document (not transcribed)
               
                
                  
                  
                     Copy, 
L. Lowenberg to 
Thomas Fraser, Hudson's Bay Company, 
4 February
                        1864, communicating details of his purchase of the land in question,
                     and asking the company to assist him in obtaining possession of what
                     was rightfully his.
                     
                     
 
            
            
               Other documents included in the file
               
                
                  
                  
                     Elliot to Emigration Commissioners, 
2 March 1864, forwarding
                     copy of the letter and enclosures for their observations and
                     suggestions.
                     
 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                     Minutes by CO staff
                     
                      
                        
                        
                           May this instruction be given at once, or should the Govrs report be
                           first obtained?
                           
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                           It is an
                           authority, and I should give it at once.
                           
                        
                        
                         
                      
                   
               
               
                
            
            
               
                  People in this document
                  
                        Dallas,  Alexander Grant
                  
                        Douglas, Sir James
                  
                        Elliot, Thomas Frederick
                  Fraser, Thomas
                  
                        Head, Sir Edmund Walker
                  Jadis, Vane
                  
                        Kennedy, Arthur
                  
                        Lowenberg, Leopold
                  MacTavish, Dugald
                  
                        Maynard, Joseph
                  Pelham-Clinton, 5th Duke of Newcastle Henry Pelham Fiennes
                  Rogers, Baron Blachford Frederic
                
               
                  Places in this document
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