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<persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Carnarvon (Parliamentary Under-Secretary)</persName>
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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Correspondence (private letter). 
                Minutes (4), Marginalia (1).</p>

<p><persName ref="prs:moody_rc">Moody</persName> explains to the CO his decision to employ three vessels, the <name ref="vsl:thames" type="vessel">Thames City</name>, <name ref="vsl:briseis" type="vessel">Briseis</name>, and <name ref="vsl:euphrates" type="vessel">Euphrates</name>. He cites the small size of these vessels and the large quantity of goods needed as the <q>unavoidable</q> circumstances that forced him to use that many ships.</p>

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On Passage to B. Columbia
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<persName ref="prs:moody_rc">Moody</persName> to <persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Carnarvon</persName> (Parliamentary Under-Secretary)
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">12419, CO 60/3, p. 383; received 6 December</ref>
<address><addrLine>
On Passage to <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B. Columbia</placeName>
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1858-11-18">18<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> November 1858</date>
<salute>My Lord,</salute>
</opener>
<p>
In reply to your Lordship's letter of the <date when="1858-10-18">18<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi>
Ultimo</date>
<note xml:id="B6M3301" n="B586M3301"> <hi rend="citation">Ultimo</hi> = Car-<persName ref="prs:moody_rc">Moody</persName>,18 Oct 58, requesting explanation
FIND Carnarvon-<persName ref="prs:moody_rc">Moody</persName>,18 Oct 58, requesting explanation
</note>
desiring an explanation of the causes which led to the
employment of the three Vessels named in the
margin <ref target="#marg1"/>
<note xml:id="B6M3302" n="B586M3302"> <hi rend="citation">margin</hi>
FIND Car-<persName ref="prs:moody_rc">Moody</persName>, 18 Oct 58, requesting explanation why 3 vessels
needed. Cf. <persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">Elliot</persName> to <persName ref="prs:moody_rc">Moody</persName>, in <ref type="doc" target="cdc:B585AD12">Corry to Merivale (Permanent Under-Secretary), 11 October 1858, 10358, CO 60/2, p. 27</ref>.
</note>
exclusive of the passages via <placeName ref="plc:panama">Panama</placeName> afforded to the detachments
under <persName ref="prs:parsons_rm">Captain Parsons</persName> and <persName ref="prs:grant_jm">Captain Grant</persName> R.E.
</p>
<p>
I have the honor to report that previous to my appointment,
the <name ref="vsl:thames" type="vessel">Thames City</name> had been engaged and I am unable to state with
certainty how it was she was selected, but I am under the impression you
will find on further investigation (if necessary) at the <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> the
<orgName ref="org:war_office">War Office</orgName> and the first movement of the question at the <orgName ref="org:colonial_office">Colonial Office</orgName>
that it arose somewhat in the following way.
</p>
<p>
It had been determined to send out to <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B. Columbia</placeName> a large
detachment of<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Officers</fw><pb facs="co_60_03/co_60_03_00383v.jpg"/> Officers and Men of the Royal Engineers in number
about 150 and the service being urgent communications were at once
made to <orgName ref="org:war_office">War Office</orgName> and <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> for the men and for a passage to
be provided. It was natural to assume they would proceed in the
ordinary way like other troops going out to the Colonies taking
with them only their baggage with arms and ammunition. For this
purpose the <name ref="vsl:thames" type="vessel">Thames City</name> would have been sufficient. After my
appointment when the nature of all our various duties came to be
discussed more at length, and in detail, and the circumstances of
the Colony considered from the further intelligence received, It
was represented to the Secretary of State by myself and others
that to expedite the pressing duties for which Royal Engineers in
particular were selected it was necessary they should be
accompanied by sundry stores and a supply of provisions.
</p>
<p>
The size of the <name ref="vsl:thames" type="vessel">Thames City</name> was not adequate for this purpose
and it was contemplated at one time by the Secretary of State
to reject her altogether remunerating the owners for the
non-fulfillment<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">of</fw><pb facs="co_60_03/co_60_03_00384r.jpg"/> of the Contract.
</p>
<p>
From the enquiries I made I found that the payment would
probably have to be very large and that the loss of time would
be considerable, and being aware of the views of the Secretary of
State under both considerations, Economy and Expedition, I ventured
to recommend that the <name ref="vsl:thames" type="vessel">Thames City</name> should go forward as at first
determined conveying with the men a selection of the most
immediately necessary stores and that another Vessel should
follow with the remainder as quickly as possible.
</p>
<p>
The <name ref="vsl:briseis" type="vessel">Briseis</name>
was at once available and her charges for freight comparatively
low and if we could fill her there would be no delay. She was
accordingly chartered.
</p>
<p>
In stowing her the Government Goods being all light, and she
having no private heavy goods in her, it was found desirable to
alter the arrangement of sending in her the few men intended to
accompany the stores and to load the space which would have been
taken up for their berths and cabin with stores. I was assured she
would have been unseaworthy otherwise.
</p>
<p>
Finally provision was made for conveying these five men with
their families in the <name ref="vsl:euphrates" type="vessel">Euphrates</name> (a vessel advertised to sail for
<placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B. Columbia</placeName>) together with the ammunition which as a Government
regula<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">:tion</fw><pb facs="co_60_03/co_60_03_00384v.jpg"/>tion could not have gone in the <name ref="vsl:briseis" type="vessel">Briseis</name> without troops.
In consequence of my urgent request to the Secretary of State
it was further determined to send in the <name ref="vsl:euphrates" type="vessel">Euphrates</name> an additional
supply of Provisions. It was rather an advantage that the <name ref="vsl:euphrates" type="vessel">Euphrates</name>
with this supply should arrive sometime after the other two vessels.
</p>
<p>
With respect to the small detachments under <persName ref="prs:parsons_rm">Captains Parsons</persName> and <persName ref="prs:grant_jm">Grant</persName> via <placeName ref="plc:panama">Panama</placeName>. They formed merely an advanced
party and the cost of sending stores with them (beyond their
immediate wants) by that route would have been extremely costly.
</p>
<p>
With the greatest of deference I beg to submit the above
arrangements under the circumstances were not only unavoidable
but perhaps I may add the best which could have been adopted,
I having made a selection of Stores for the <name ref="vsl:thames" type="vessel">Thames City</name> so that
no practical inconvenience I trust will arise if the period
between the arrival of the <name ref="vsl:thames" type="vessel">T. City</name> &amp; the <name ref="vsl:briseis" type="vessel">Briseis</name> does not exceed
a month or 6 weeks. Beyond that time the inconvenience might
be some delay in getting to work efficiently and even the
possibility of this I <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">now</hi> fully expect to be able to guard
against by arrangements I shall make in the Colony where I
shall be three months before the arrival of either vessel.
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I have the honor to be
<lb/>
Y<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Lordship's Most obedient humble Servant
<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:moody_rc">R.C. Moody</persName>
<lb/>
Col. R.E.
<lb/>

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</closer><closer><name type="addressee"><persName ref="prs:carnarvon">The Earl Carnarvon</persName></name></closer>
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<ab><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName><lb/>
I presume that this explanation from <persName ref="prs:moody_rc">Colonel Moody</persName> was called for
in order that it might be produced if necessary. Put by?
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:jadis_v">VJ</persName>
<date when="1858-12-06">
6 Dec<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
</date>
</signed>
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<ab><persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Lord Carnarvon</persName><lb/>
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1858-12-07">
7/12
</date>
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<ab>
It might perhaps have been worth while to print this with the other
semi-confidential papers on <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B. Columbia</placeName>. But it is at all events a
letter to be borne in mind with a view to possible reference.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:carnarvon">C</persName>
<date when="1858-12-09">
D 9
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
Of course. Keep this in case it is wanted.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">EBL</persName>
<date when="1858-12-10">
Dec<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> 10
</date>
</signed>
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<div xml:id="marg1" type="marginalis"><ab><name ref="vsl:thames" type="vessel">Thames City</name>, <name ref="vsl:briseis" type="vessel">Briseis</name>, <name ref="vsl:euphrates" type="vessel">Euphrates</name>.
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">All small class vessels</hi>.</ab></div>
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