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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Correspondence (private letter). 
                Minutes (3), Enclosures (untranscribed) (2).</p>

<p><persName ref="prs:nias_ge">Nias</persName> submits a petition for the implementation of regulations on land sales in <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> which would force land speculators to <q>substantially improve</q> the land within a limited time period. <persName ref="prs:nias_ge">Nias</persName> hopes to discourage <q>American Land Grabber[s]</q> from speculating on <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName>.</p>

<p>The minutes agree to send <persName ref="prs:nias_ge">Nias</persName>’s letters to <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName> as a <q>caution</q> but disagree with <persName ref="prs:nias_ge">Nias</persName> as to the extent of damage caused by <q>land jobbing.</q></p>

<p>Enclosed is <persName ref="prs:nias_ge">Nias</persName>’s petition praying measures be taken to require all purchaser of lots in <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> to improve within a reasonable time; and a clipping from the Daily Evening Bulletin, <placeName ref="plc:san_francisco">San Francisco</placeName>, on land speculations in <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName>.</p>

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San Francisco.
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<persName ref="prs:nias_ge">Nias</persName> to <persName ref="prs:stanley">Stanley</persName>
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<opener><ref type="co_ref">7981, CO 6/29, p. 7; registered 10 August 1858</ref>
<lb/><lb/>
<name type="addressee">To the Most Noble<lb/> 
<persName ref="prs:derby">The Earl of Derby</persName></name>,
<address><addrLine>
<placeName ref="plc:san_francisco">San Francisco</placeName>.
</addrLine>
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<date when="1858-07-03">3<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rd</hi> July, 1858.</date>
<salute>My Lord:</salute>
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<p>
I take the liberty of forwarding to you the enclosed Petition,
and respectfully request you to present it to Her Majesty, for whom I
entertain feelings of profound respect.
</p>
<closer>
I am My Lord<lb/>
Your most obed<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> Servant<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:nias_ge">G.E. Nias</persName>.

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<opener><salute>My Lord:</salute>
</opener>
<p>
I should like briefly to state to your Lordship my reasons for
presenting the enclosed petition, as I should wish to enlist your
advocacy of a course, which founded on justice and right, would
materially advance the best interests of a most important new
settlement,—if neglected, will seriously retard its prosperity and early
development.
</p>
<p>
My eight years residence in California has given me ample
opportunity of judging of the bad effects provided by the absence of such
a regulation, and in <placeName ref="plc:san_francisco">San Francisco</placeName> it was for 5 or 6 years and is still
to some <pb facs="co_6_29/co_6_29_00010v.jpg"/>extent, one of the greatest evidences of American mis-rule; I
allude to the <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">selling "Town lots," in new settlements</hi>, without
requiring the purchasers to <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">substantially improve</hi> the same within
a <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">limited period</hi>, or forfeit their purchase money.
</p>
<p>
I believe the bad effects of the absence of this regulation have
been felt in other colonies, and I am under the impression that there is
some general law requiring town lots, on government land, to be improved.
I will not occupy your Lordships time with arguments to prove the good
policy and justice of such a law, you are doubtless fully acquainted with
them. In the present instance its absence will be particularly
injurious, as from its proximity to American settlements, numbers of
American "Land Speculators" have gone down, with the sole purpose of
buying all the land in and about the town of <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName>, they can lay their
hands on, merely for the purpose of holding &amp; reselling, at an enormous
advance. <seg type="snippet" xml:id="B586N01_snippet_1">The American "Land Grabber," seldom improves land in his own
country, and only <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">folly</hi> would suppose he would do so on British
soil, for indeed only those who have lived some years among them can tell
the jealousy and hatred the great bulk of Americans bear towards Britain
and all pertaining to her.</seg>
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<p>
(Do not let the foregoing lead you to suppose that I am
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">prejudiced</hi> against Americans;—it is only the result of experience.
I have made it a point to cultivate the acquaintance of and associate
mostly with Americans, and as to outward appearance and speech am an
American. And could if your Lordship desired furnish you some very strong
arguments against the Bal[l]ot and universal sufferage. I was a strong
Radical when I left England. I am anything but a radical now, and shall
return to see <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> under the British flag at the earliest
opportunity, with great pleasure.)
</p>
<p>
I see by the papers that His Excellency <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Governor Douglas</persName> has some
doubts of the policy of allowing the law to be monopolized as it was—for
he had closed the "Land Office" &amp; given notice that no person could
purchase more than six lots. But this is absurd as the lots might appear
in the names of twenty persons, and yet belong wholly to
one. "Substantial Improvements" in a limited time, is the only remedy.
</p>
<p>
I enclose some cuttings, in preference to sending you a whole paper
to wade through and remain your Lordships
</p>

<closer>
Very obedient Servant<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:nias_ge">GE Nias</persName>
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<ab><persName ref="prs:merivale_h"><hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Mr. Merivale</hi></persName>.<lb/>
It would be desirable, I think, to send copies of these Letters to
<persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Governor Douglas</persName>, and Caution him on this subject. It is only
reasonable that purchasers of Town lots should improve within a
stipulated period.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi>. <date when="1858-08-11">11 Aug<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></date></persName>
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<ab>
I think copy of this should be forwarded to <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Gov. Douglas</persName> by next
mail as a caution, though strictly speaking the land is the Company's,
not the Crown's: &amp; also to the <orgName ref="org:hbc">HBC</orgName>. What <persName ref="prs:nias_ge">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Nias</persName> says is in the
abstract perfectly right: land jobbing is the curse and canker of new
colonies: no land should be sold, not only in town lots but in country
lots, except to men bound to improve them. But where <persName ref="prs:nias_ge">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Nias</persName> is wrong, in
common with all inexperienced reasoners on this subject, is in his belief
of the efficacy of "regulations" to check the evil. No one will
believe—till they have seen it proved—that "regulations" to check land
jobbing are not worth the paper they are written on. Only one
speculative writer ever had a clear perception of this. <persName ref="prs:wakefield_eg">E.G. Wakefield</persName>,
who was eminently also a practical man. He, therefore, preached the
doctrine that all land should be sold at so high a price (fixed upset) as
will render it rarely worth the "land jobbers" while to buy: and the
proceeds spent in helping the bona fide purchaser to labour. All
favourers of cheap and easy schemes, meant to look well rather than to
work, have abused him ever since. But the proof of his sound views is in
the steady thriving of the only colony in which they were ever thoroughly
adopted—South Australia. However, fortunately or unfortunately, we
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">cannot</hi> try his scheme in North America, with the States, the land
of cheap sales &amp; land jobbing, close by.
</ab>
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So far, however, I should be inclined to differ from <persName ref="prs:nias_ge">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Nias</persName>,
that I do not see much mischief in the public from land jobbing in
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">town</hi> lots, beyond the lots of revenue, which is of course
provoking. But land jobbing in country land kills improvement.
</p>

<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:merivale_h">HM</persName>
<date when="1858-08-12">
Aug<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> 12
</date>
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<ab>
Send this &amp; see my Minute as to Land jobbing. I expect &amp; fear that
so strong a case next Session may be made out against <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName> as to cost
him his Governorship. It would be kindness to give him every warning.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">[EBL]</persName>
</signed>
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<ab>
Petition of <persName ref="prs:nias_ge">George E. Nias</persName>, <placeName ref="plc:san_francisco">San Francisco</placeName>, <date when="1858-07-03">3 July 1858</date>, praying
measures be taken to require all purchasers of lots in <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> to
improve them within a reasonable time.
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Clipping, <placeName ref="plc:san_francisco">San Francisco</placeName> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;"><title level="j">Daily Evening Bulletin</title>, <date when="1858-06-23">23 June 1858</date>,</hi> on land speculations in <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName>.
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