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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Despatch to London. 
                Minutes (4), Other documents (1), Marginalia (2).</p>

<p><persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName> requests a vessel for the transport of troops up the <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser River</placeName> and reports that <persName ref="prs:brew_c">Brew</persName> succeeded in collecting mining taxes at <placeName ref="plc:hills_bar">Hill’s Bar</placeName>.</p>

<p>The minutes discuss <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName>’s steamship request. There is a bit of disagreement; while the CO agrees that <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName> will find the vessel <q>invaluable</q> they do not know if it would be prudent or not to make him pay the colony's outstanding debt to <placeName ref="plc:london">London</placeName> first.</p>

<p>Included with this document is a draft reply from <persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Carnarvon</persName> to <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName>, <date when="1859-04-12">12 April 1859</date>, advising that if <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName> proceeds with his plan to build a vessel the colony should bear the cost.</p>

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<head>
No. 95
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">3293, CO 60/4, p. 136; received 29 March
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
<placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName>, <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName>
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1859-02-07">7 February 1859</date>
<salute>Sir,</salute>
</opener>
<p>
There remains nothing of much importance to communicate by
the present Mail respecting the state of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>, as
I have already mentioned to you the return of the Lieutenant
Governor to this place, and result of <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">the</fw><pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00137v.jpg"/>the expedition to <placeName ref="plc:yale">Yale</placeName>.
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<p>
2. I have not yet received a return of the Expenditure
incurred for the conveyance of the Troops, and the transport
of the Stores for the use of the Expeditionary force employed
on that occassion, but I understand that the outlay has been
considerable; caused in a great measure by the high rates paid
to the River Steam Boats, for passengers and transport, a species
of imposition to which the Government will inevitably be exposed
on all occasions whenever Troops or Stores are moved, as may be
often necessary, from place to place in the Colony, <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">until</fw><pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00138r.jpg"/>until such
service can be performed without the intervention of the Steam Boat.
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<p>
3. To limit and fix by enactment, the rates chargeable on
stores and passages for public account on <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser's River</placeName>, would
be an impolitic and perhaps oppressive interference with private
rights. I have therefore to propose another measure which will
be equally effective in protecting the public interests, while it
will probably also be less repugnant to public feeling, and more
compatible with the true dignity of Her Majesty's Government.
</p>
<p>
4. That measure would be <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">either</fw><pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00138v.jpg"/>either to purchase, or build in
this country, a strong powerful River Steamer for the public
Service of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>.
</p>
<p>
5. The first cost of a Boat adapted in all repects for that
Service would not exceed the Sum of £10,000 Sterling. Her current
expenses for maintenance would be inconsiderable, as beyond a very
small regular crew. To keep her in perfect order, she might be
manned on occasions of emergency from any of Her Majesty's Ships in Port.
</p>
<p>
6. A Boat adapted of that Class well manned, and armed with two
serviceable guns, would perform all the public <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">transport</fw><pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00139r.jpg"/>transport, protect the
revenue, and command every Mining Bar on <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser's River</placeName> below <placeName ref="plc:yale">Fort Yale</placeName>, and to <placeName ref="plc:port_douglas">Port Douglas</placeName> on the <placeName ref="plc:harrison_river">Harrison's River</placeName>. She would thus
become an invaluable instrument, if necessary, for reducing the
refractory to obedience and restoring the authority of the Law.
</p>
<p>
7. The importance of having means at our disposal for the rapid
conveyance of Troops on <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser's River</placeName> has been long apparent, and
I was restrained from providing such means only by the fear of being
plunged into financial difficulties.
</p>
<p>
8. I am of opinion that our attention should be immediately
diverted <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">to</fw><pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00139v.jpg"/>to that object, and providing the measure meets with the
approval of my Executive Council, we shall probably undertake without
delay the construction of a Vessel for the navigation of <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser's
River</placeName>, such as I have described, trusting to defray the cost of her
construction out of the Revenues of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>, and, should
they prove insufficient to meet that and other public expenditures;
that Her Majesty's Government will, in such a case, protect any Bills
we may be compelled to draw on the Lords Commissioners of the
Treasury, in order to cover any temporary deficit so caused.
</p>
<p>
<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Before</fw><pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00140r.jpg"/>9. Before closing this subject I beg further to observe that
the River Steam Boat herein referred to, is not intended to supercede
the demand made in my Despatch N<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">o</hi> 37 of the <date when="1858-11-27">27<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> November</date> Last,
for Two small Boats of light draught, which are intended more especially
for coast service, and are probably from their build and small steam
power not adapted for river service.

<ref target="#marg1">*</ref>

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<p>
10. Advices have been received from <placeName ref="plc:yale">Fort Yale</placeName> to the <date when="1859-01-26">26<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi>
of January</date>.
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<p>
11. <persName ref="prs:brew_c">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Commissioner Brew</persName> reports that he had succeeded <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">in</fw><pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00140v.jpg"/>in
collecting the Miner's Licence Tax on <placeName ref="plc:hills_bar">Hills Bar</placeName>, amounting to
292 1/2 Dollars, and that 150 Dollars for a Licensed House was to be
paid a few days afterwards, and the collection of the Miner's
Licence was to be further continued on the other Mining Bars.
</p>
<p>
12. <persName ref="prs:brew_c">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Brew</persName> suggests a reduction of the Mining Tax to
quarterly payment of 25/s by every Miner, instead of the present
Monthly Tax of 21/s on each claim holder, and other modifications
of the Mining Regulations which will have due consideration.
</p>
<p>
<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">It</fw><pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00141r.jpg"/>13. It also appears that the Trading Licence at <placeName ref="plc:yale">Fort Yale</placeName>
with two exceptions, had all been paid for the previous month.
</p>
<p>
14. <persName ref="prs:brew_c">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Brew</persName> also reports that the migration of miners to
the interior country beyond <placeName ref="plc:yale">Fort Yale</placeName> had commenced on an extensive
scale, several crowded Boats from below, having passed on the
25<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> and on the previous day a great number of men had started
from <placeName ref="plc:yale">Fort Yale</placeName>, by land and in Boats for the <placeName ref="plc:fountain">Fountain</placeName>, for Bridge
River, and for the Canoe Country. <persName ref="prs:brew_c">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Brew</persName> is of opinion that
5000 <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Miners</fw><pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00141v.jpg"/>Miners will soon be collected in those Districts, and
recommends the appointment of an Assistant Gold Commissioner
to be stationed at the <placeName ref="plc:fountain">Fountain</placeName>.
</p>
<p>
15. <persName ref="prs:brew_c">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Brew</persName>'s report contains nothing further of importance.
</p>
<p>
16. The numbers of the Victoria Gazette, as per margin

<ref target="#marg2">**</ref>

are forwarded for your information.
</p>
<closer>
I have etc.
<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:douglas_j">James Douglas</persName>
<lb/>
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<persName ref="prs:merivale_h">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Merivale</persName><lb/>
Should the Governor be informed that the
measure he proposes of building a <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice> Steam Boat for
Colonial Service would seem very judicious; but that he
must himself determine whether the finances of the Colony
will admit of such expenditure. Remind him that he has
to repay the Imperial Treasury a heavy debt—which it sh. be
his earliest effort to extinguish, and state <pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00142r.jpg"/>that until that
obligation is discharged <persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">Sir Ed<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> Lytton</persName> considers that the
L.C. of <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> would not feel
themselves at liberty to accept any bills drawn on them for
the proposed Steamboat even though the advance be only temporary.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1859-03-30">
30/3
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
I think such a despatch might be judicious on our parts?
At the same time, I have little doubt that the Governor is
convinced that this Steamboat would be
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">invaluable</hi> to the government, and will act accordingly.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:merivale_h">HM</persName>
<date when="1859-03-30">
M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi> 30
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
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<div type="minute_entry">
<ab>
I doubt—as I have minuted on former occasions—the policy
of so frequently checking the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> in expenses <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> at the
outset of the Colony <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">may be essential</hi> by reminding him
of the debt <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> the Colony owes to this country. It is
impossible under the most favourable conditions that that
debt can be liquidated under two or three years, and though
it is desirable to keep the expenditure as low as may <pb facs="co_60_04/co_60_04_00142v.jpg"/>be,
this is not the first or the only consideration. The arrival
of fresh miners appears to have commenced. Substantially I
believe that I agree with <persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Blackwood</persName>; but I merely wish to
guard against the risk of possibly falling into
one mistake in desiring to keep clear of another.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:carnarvon">C</persName>
<date when="1859-03-31">
M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">ch</hi> 31
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
I disagree with <persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Lord C.</persName> about checking <persName ref="prs:douglas_j"><choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> Douglas</persName>.
If not checked he will get himself &amp; us into [great?] scrape,
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"Out of Debt, out of Danger." I agree entirely with <persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> B.</persName>—for
the sake of the Colony itself. Write in <persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> B</persName>'s sense, &amp; call upon
<choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> D first to pay what the Col<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi> owes.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">EBL</persName>
<date when="1859-04-01">
Ap 1
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<ab>
Draft reply, <persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Carnarvon</persName> (in the absence of <persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">Lytton</persName>) to <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName>,
No. 50, <date when="1859-04-12">12 April 1859</date>.
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Orders given for these Boats, &amp; complied with by the <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName>.
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<date when="1859-01-29">29<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> Jan<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></date>
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