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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Public Offices document. 
                Minutes (5), Other documents (2).</p>

<p><persName ref="prs:booth_j">Booth</persName> regrets that lighthouses required in <placeName ref="plc:juan_de_fuca_strait">Juan de Fuca Strait</placeName> and <placeName ref="plc:esquimalt_harbour">Esquimalt Harbour</placeName> cannot be paid for by the Home Government.</p>

<p>The minutes debate whether the <orgName ref="org:colonial_office">Colonial Office</orgName> is obligated to assist in the building of the lighthouses. The CO also observes that the <orgName ref="org:board_trade">Board of Trade</orgName> is <q>very anxious</q> to have these lighthouses built.</p>

<p>Included in this document is a memorandum by <persName ref="prs:sulivan_bj">Sulivan</persName> on the necessity of installing the lighthouses; and <persName ref="prs:sulivan_bj">Sulivan</persName> to <persName ref="prs:merivale_h">Merivale</persName>, <date when="1859-04-12">12 April, 1859</date>, expressing his conviction that the lighthouses should be installed with or without the financial support of the home government.</p>

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Office of Committee of Privy Council for Trade,
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Whitehall
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<head>
<persName ref="prs:booth_j">Booth</persName> to <persName ref="prs:merivale_h">Merivale</persName> (Permanent Under-Secretary)
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">3721, CO 60/6, p. 78; received 8 April
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
Office of Committee of Privy Council for Trade,
</addrLine>
<addrLine>
Whitehall
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1859-04-07">7 April 1859</date>
<salute>Sir,</salute>
</opener>
<p>
I am directed by the Lords of the Committee of Privy
Council for Trade to acknowledge the receipt of your letter
of the 31<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> Ultimo, transmitting copies of two Despatches
from the Governor of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> calling attention to
the urgent necessity for the <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">erection</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00079v.jpg"/>erection of Lighthouses in <placeName ref="plc:juan_de_fuca_strait">Fucas
Straits</placeName>, and the approaches to the <placeName ref="plc:esquimalt_harbour">Harbour of Esquimalt</placeName>, and
stating that as the <orgName ref="org:colonial_office">Colonial Office</orgName> cannot apply to Parliament
for a grant of money for these necessary public works and as the
Colony has not at present the means of paying for them, <persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">Sir E.B.
Lytton</persName> is desirous of being informed whether My Lords cannot
include the required Lighthouses within "the class of Imperial
Lights," and give the Colony <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">some</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00080r.jpg"/>some assistance towards their
erection out of the funds placed at their disposal for such services.
</p>
<p>
In reply My Lords direct me to state that, whilst there
can be no doubt of the importance of the proposed Lights,
they are required for the Trade of the Colony, and not, as
in the case of the Lights in the Bahamas and elsewhere, for
the Trade which merely passes the Colony.
</p>
<p>
Under these circumstances they are Lights which should,
My <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Lords</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00080v.jpg"/>Lords think, if practicable, be erected and maintained
by and at the cost of the Colony rather than the Home Government.
</p>
<p>
But even if the Lights in question could be said to
belong to the class of Imperial Lights, i.e. of Lights which
the Home Government is bound to erect or maintain for the
purposes of the general passing Trade, their Lordships could
still have no funds at their disposal out of which to erect
or maintain them.
</p>
<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">The only</fw>
<pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00081r.jpg"/>
<p>
The only funds out of which My Lords can pay the
expenses of Colonial Lights are first, sums raised by levying
Tolls under the Act 18 &amp; 19 Vict: c. 91, and secondly,
sums voted by Parliament.
</p>
<p>
The present case does not appear to be one in which it
is desirable to levy Tolls under the Act in question, since
the only Trade which would pay the Tolls is the Trade of
the Colony and the Colony can itself, if so disposed, levy
Tolls on account of the Lights <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">in its</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00081v.jpg"/>in its own Ports.
</p>
<p>
And as regards monies voted by Parliament it is to be
observed that the only votes are votes taken by <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName>
on the responsibility of this Department for the services of
special Lighthouses mentioned in the votes.
</p>
<p>
If, notwithstanding the fact that these Lights cannot
be classed as Imperial Lights, the circumstances of the
Colony of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> are such as to make it proper
that these Lights should be erected <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">with</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00082r.jpg"/>with Imperial instead
of Colonial Funds, those circumstances are matters within
the cognizance of the <orgName ref="org:colonial_office">Colonial Office</orgName> rather than of this
Department; and if it is thought right that a vote for the
purpose should be taken by <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName>, the vote should
My Lords think be taken on the responsibility of the Colonial
Office, and the application to <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> for the
purpose should be made by that Office.
</p>
<p>
If it should be decided <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">to take</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00082v.jpg"/>to take a vote for the purpose My Lords
will be glad to give their best advice and assistance in the matter.
</p>
<p>
At the same time they could not without obtaining further
local information state with accuracy and certainty what the
expense to be incurred in the Colony in erecting these Lights will be.
</p>
<p>
A copy of a further memorandum by <persName ref="prs:sulivan_bj"><!-- KSS note: correct Sulivan? -->Captain Sulivan</persName>, R.N.
on the character and probable <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">cost</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00083r.jpg"/>cost of these Lights is
enclosed for <persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">Sir E.B. Lytton</persName>'s information.
</p>
<closer>
I have etc.
<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:booth_j">James Booth</persName>
<lb/>
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<div type="minute_entry"><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00083v.jpg"/>
<ab><hi style="text-decoration: underline;"><persName ref="prs:merivale_h">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Merivale</persName></hi><lb/>
The reasoning of the <orgName ref="org:board_trade">Board of Trade</orgName> seems irresistible: &amp;
the question resolves itself into two considerations. Is the
case sufficiently strong to justify <persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">Sir E. Lytton</persName> in recommending
the T-y to take a vote for setting up the lights
<hi style="text-align: center;">or</hi>
<lb/>
should we tell the Governor we cannot help him, &amp; that if lights
are so necessary he must himself raise the funds for the purpose.
</ab>
<p>
The view I take is adverse to an application to Parl<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi>
for as the trade is only a Colonial one, &amp; at present moderate
in extent, it will be difficult to support the request by
reference to those general principles which guide Parl<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> in
granting funds for Colonial Lights. If this is a correct view
the alternative is to adjourn the establishment of the Lights
until the Colony can itself find the means of paying for them.
And perhaps this is the most wholesome policy in the end.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1859-04-08">
8 Ap<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">l</hi>
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
I have no doubt the B<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> of Trade is right in
saying that it is <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">our</hi> business at the <orgName ref="org:colonial_office">Colonial Office</orgName> to put
the expense of these lights on our estimates, if they are to
be paid for out of Imperial funds at all. <pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00084r.jpg"/>I suppose therefore
the subject must be adjourned, although it is a pity that
the Americans have so much the start of us.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:merivale_h">HM</persName>
<date when="1859-04-11">
Apl 11
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
See <persName ref="prs:sulivan_bj">Cap<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> Sulivan</persName>'s letter to <persName ref="prs:merivale_h">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Merivale</persName> &amp; M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
M. minute annexed. A draft I think may be prepared on
<persName ref="prs:sulivan_bj">Cap<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> Sulivan</persName>'s Letter to the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice>.
</ab>
<p>
Meanwhile the <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> &amp; the B<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> of Trade will write
officially to us on the subject.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:carnarvon">C</persName>
<date when="1859-04-17">
Ap<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">l</hi> 17
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:sulivan_bj">B.J. Sulivan</persName>, memorandum on the necessity of installing the lights.
</ab>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:sulivan_bj">Sulivan</persName> to [<persName ref="prs:merivale_h">Merivale</persName>], <date when="1859-04-12">12 April, 1859</date>, expressing his conviction
that the lighthouses should be installed with or without the financial
support of the home government.
</ab>
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<div type="minute_entry"><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00089r.jpg"/>
<ab>
<persName ref="prs:carnarvon">L<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> Carnarvon</persName><lb/>
<persName ref="prs:sulivan_bj">Capt Sulivan</persName> of the B<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> of Trade is very anxious about
these lighthouses and with good reason. He says the loss of a single
vessel would cost this country very probably much more than their
expense, and moreover we stand in <pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00089v.jpg"/>discredit as compared with the
Americans.
</ab>
<p>
I told him our difficulty with respect to any addition to our
B. Col. Estimates, but said that <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">if</hi> the <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> took on
themselves, to urge it as a question of public security we might
be perhaps persuaded. <pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00090r.jpg"/>Or if he could suggest any way of fairly
throwing it on the colony, we might write by Mail of 15<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi>.
</p>
<p>
He has accordingly sent here this note which might serve (if
you think proper) as the basis of a despatch to the Governor. You
see <pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00090v.jpg"/>the cost is reduced to 7000, i.e. for
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">two</hi> lights only.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:merivale_h">HM</persName>
<date when="1859-04-12">
Ap<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">l</hi> 12
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
The B<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> of Trade will write to us—also <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> on this
subject. But <persName ref="prs:sulivan_bj">Cap<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">n</hi> Sulivan</persName> requests that his note to <persName ref="prs:merivale_h">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
Merivale</persName> may be regarded only in the light of a private communication
&amp; not to be used officially.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
</signed>
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