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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Public Offices document. 
                Minutes (6), Other documents (1).</p>

<p><persName ref="prs:trevelyan_ce">Trevelyan</persName> proposes to the CO, on behalf of <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName>, a mechanism in the <q>Draft Charter for the Bank of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British
Columbia</placeName></q> that would allow officials to revoke the charter <q>in case of breach of its provisions.</q></p>

<p>The minutes protest that it is <q>objectionable</q> that <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> <q>should be empowered to address the Crown independently</q> of the CO on matters concerning a colony and the revocation of a charter. They find precedent to have this clause omitted.</p>

<p>Enclosed is a draft from <persName ref="prs:merivale_h">Merivale</persName> to <persName ref="prs:hamilton_ga">Hamilton</persName> further discussing possible alterations to the draft charter of the Bank of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British
Columbia</placeName> with reference to previous colonial banking charters.</p>

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<head>
<persName ref="prs:trevelyan_ce">Trevelyan</persName> to <persName ref="prs:merivale_h">Merivale</persName> (Permanent Under-Secretary)
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">472, CO 60/6, p. 95; received 14 January
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
Treasury Chambers
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1859-01-13">13 January 1859</date>
<salute>Sir,</salute>
</opener>
<p>
Having laid before the Lords Commissioners of Her
Majesty's Treasury your Letter of the 28<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> ultimo proposing
certain amendments of the "Draft Charter for the Bank of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British
Columbia</placeName>," I am commanded by My Lords to state for the information
of Secretary <persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">Sir Edward Bulwer Lytton</persName>, that They can hardly think
that the full impact of the provisions regarding <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">the</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00096v.jpg"/>the revocation
of the Charter were brought under his notice when he proposed
that the issue of a Warrant of this Board for the purpose should
be made legally subject to the concurrence of the Secretary of
State for the Colonies.
</p>
<p>
I am to state that, in framing the Drafts of Charters for
Colonial Banks, it was considered desirable by the counsel of
this Board that some summary course should be provided for the <pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00097r.jpg"/>revocation of the Grant, in case of breach of its provisions,
in order to avoid the delay and expense of proceedings in
Chancery; and that, for this object a power should be reserved
to the Crown to revoke the Charter on proof of violation of its
conditions, which power should be set in motion by a formal
representation to <persName ref="prs:queen_victoria">the Queen</persName> by some Department of Her Majesty's
Government.
</p>
<p>
It appeared to be obvious that this Board, as the
<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Depart=</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00097v.jpg"/>Department charged with financial business was the proper
authority to be entrusted with the function, and the clause
which is now proposed to be altered has been inserted in all
the Colonial Bank Charters of recent years. The power conferred
by it is not of an arbitrary nature. That power could only be
exercised on proof that the corporation had so conducted its
operations as to entail legal forfeiture of its <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">privileges</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00098r.jpg"/>privileges;
and it is not to be supposed that so serious a step as the
revocation of a Charter would be taken except after mature
consideration of all the facts of the case of which the Secretary
of State for the Colonies would necessarily be cognisant, and under
the advice of the <orgName ref="org:law_officers">Law Officers</orgName> of the Crown.
</p>
<p>
My Lords are aware of no reasons which can be urged against
the ministerial Act provided for being vested <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">in</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00098v.jpg"/>in this Board; but
if <persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">Sir Edward Bulwer Lytton</persName> is prepared to state any grounds why the
course hitherto observed in the matter should be altered, My
Lords will be ready to consider such suggestions as he may wish
to offer on the subject, but They cannot consent that, under any
circumstances, the ministerial duty of submitting Their Warrant to
Her Majesty should be <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">made</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00099r.jpg"/>made legally subject to the previous
approval of a Secretary of State.
</p>
<p>
I am to observe that My Lords will consider the other
suggestion contained in your Letter.
</p>
<closer>
I remain etc.
<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:trevelyan_ce">C.E. Trevelyan</persName>
<lb/>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:merivale_h">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Merivale</persName><lb/>
<persName ref="prs:strachey_w">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Strachey</persName>?
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:jadis_v">VJ</persName>
<date when="1859-01-14">14 Jan</date>
</signed>
<signed><persName ref="prs:merivale_h">HM</persName>
<date when="1859-01-15">
Jan 15
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:merivale_h">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Merivale</persName><lb/>
I have been unable to find copies of any very recent
Charters in the office, &amp; am therefore unable to say how far
the present statement of <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> is correct that the provision
objected to by this dep<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> by the letter of <date when="1858-10-28">Oct 28/58</date> objected to by this <choice><abbr>d<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>department</expan></choice> by the letter of <date when="1858-10-28">Oct 28/58</date>
"<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">has been inserted in all the Colonial Bank Charters</hi> of
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">recent</hi> years." You will see that it was <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">not</hi> inserted in
the annexed printed Charter of the <orgName ref="org:bank_australia">Bank of Australia</orgName> which
simply vests a power of revocation in the Crown, without the
questionable addition practically placing the power in the
hands of 2 <orgName ref="org:treasury">Lords of the Treasury</orgName>. I understand the <choice><abbr>Se<choice><abbr>c<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></abbr><expan>company</expan></choice></abbr><expan>Secretary</expan></choice>
of State might claim the right of advising the Crown—or at least
of jointly advising. I think the answer to this letter might
be that <persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">Sir E.B. Lytton</persName> still thinks it objectionable in point
of principle that the <orgName ref="org:treasury">Lords of the Treasury</orgName> should be empowered
to address the Crown independently of this department, in a
matter of such great importance to a Colony, as the revocation
of a Charter, but as their Lordships object to an express
provision for the <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">concurrence</fw><pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00100r.jpg"/>concurrence of the <choice><abbr>Se<choice><abbr>c<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></abbr><expan>company</expan></choice></abbr><expan>Secretary</expan></choice> of State <persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">Sir
E.B. Lytton</persName> <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> suggest that the form of provision as to
revocation, in the annexed Charter of the <orgName ref="org:bank_australia">Bank of Australia</orgName>,
should be reverted to, under which the power of revocation
should be simply vested in the Sovereign without any
mention of a representation from 2 <orgName ref="org:treasury">Lords of the Treasury</orgName>.
</ab>
<p>
On a recent occasion—viz<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> in the case of the Oriental
Bank, <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> acting on a similar Charter power vested in
2 <orgName ref="org:treasury">Lords of the Treasury</orgName>—gave the Bank authority to issue
notes in Mauritius with the concurrence of the Governor,
in the month of <date when="1859-06">June</date> or <date when="1859-07">July</date>, and did not inform the Secretary
of State that they had done so till <date when="1859-09">September</date>. There have
been other instances in which the <pb facs="co_60_06/co_60_06_00100v.jpg"/>Treasury have caused us much
perplexity
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from not acquainting us sufficiently with
their proceedings in regard to Colonial matters. It
is certainly undesirable to raise a controversy between the
departments and therefore if any allusion is made to our
past experience of the use by <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> of powers vested
in them independently of this department, it should be of a
general &amp; inoffensive character.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:sargeaunt_wc">WS</persName>
<date when="1859-01-31">
Jan<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi> 31/59
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Lord Carnarvon</persName><lb/>
I have not myself considered this matter: follow <persName ref="prs:strachey_w">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Strachey</persName>'s
advice?
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:merivale_h">HM</persName>
<date when="1859-01-31">
Jan 31
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
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<ab>
I know nothing of this case.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:carnarvon">C</persName>
<date when="1859-02-01">
Feby 1
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
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<ab>
As M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> S advises.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:lytton_egeb">EBL</persName>
<date when="1859-02-03">
Feb 3
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
Draft, <persName ref="prs:merivale_h">Merivale</persName> to <persName ref="prs:hamilton_ga">G.A. Hamilton</persName>, Treasury,
<date when="1859-02-14">14 February 1859</date>, further discussing possible alterations to the
draft charter of the Bank of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> with reference to
previous colonial banking charters.
</ab>
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<div type="minutes">
<div type="minute_entry">
<ab>
<persName ref="prs:merivale_h">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Merivale</persName><lb/>
Having now obtained a series of Charters from the
<orgName ref="org:board_trade">Board of Trade</orgName>—I find that 2 Charters of <date when="1855">1855</date> &amp; <date when="1856">1856</date>
omit the clause objected to by this <choice><abbr>d<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi>.</abbr><expan>department</expan></choice> I have
noticed them in this draft.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:sargeaunt_wc">WS</persName>
</signed>
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