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<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)</persName>
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<publicationStmt><p>Published by Jim Hendrickson and the University of Victoria.</p>
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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Public Offices document. 
                Minutes (2), Other documents (1).</p>

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<persName ref="prs:reeve">Reeve</persName> informs the <orgName ref="org:colonial_office">Colonial Office</orgName> that the <orgName ref="org:hbc">HBC</orgName> refuses to accept that the
government of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName> will be solely responsible for providing the company with any financial compensation
resulting from their land claims in that colony.
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<persName ref="prs:reeve"><surname>Reeve</surname>, <forename>Henry</forename></persName>
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Council Office
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Whitehall
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<persName ref="prs:reeve">Reeve</persName> to <persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers</persName> (Permanent Under-Secretary)
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">5917, CO 60/12, p. 47; received 29 June
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
Council Office
</addrLine>
<addrLine>
Whitehall
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1861-06-28">28 June 1861</date>
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<p>
With reference to your letter of the <date when="1861-06-04">4<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> instant</date>
enclosing the answer of the Lords Commissioners of Her
Majesty's Treasury on the subject of the Pensions of the
<orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName> and stating that His Grace the <persName ref="prs:newcastle">Duke
of Newcastle</persName> is anxious that no further delay should take
place in this matter,<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">I</fw><pb facs="co_60_12/co_60_12_00048v.jpg"/> I am directed by the Lord President
of the Council to inform you that His Lordship instructed me to
communicate to <persName ref="prs:maynard">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Maynard</persName>, the Solicitor of the Hudson's
Bay Company, the nature of the answer given by the <orgName ref="org:treasury">Lords
Commissioners of Her Majesty's Treasury</orgName> to the effect that
any claims which might arise out of the reference to the
Privy Council must be met out of such means as the local
Governments have at their disposal, and can in no case be
allowed to fall upon Funds which would have to be provided by Parliament.
</p>
<p>
Having made this communication<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">to</fw><pb facs="co_60_12/co_60_12_00049r.jpg"/> to the Agent of the
Company I have received from that Gentleman a letter
dated the <date when="1861-06-27">27<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> instant</date> stating that his Clients cannot
be satisfied with having to look to the Colonial Revenues
but that they consider that they have only the Imperial
Government to look to as it is with that Government alone
that the transactions in question have been discussed.
They add that they therefore think that it will not be
expedient to proceed with the petitions which have been
presented until this matter is cleared up as it may render<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">necessary</fw><pb facs="co_60_12/co_60_12_00049v.jpg"/>
necessary some alteration of the Petitions.
</p>
<p>
Her Majesty had been pleased to refer the petitions
of the <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName> to the Judicial Committee
at the Council on the <date when="1861-06-26">26<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> instant</date> before the last
mentioned communication of the Agent had been received,
but under these circumstances the <persName ref="prs:newcastle">Duke of Newcastle</persName> will
perceive that the Lords of the Judicial Committee are not
able to enter upon the investigation of the legal title
of the Company until the parties are willing to proceed
and have<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">produced</fw><pb facs="co_60_12/co_60_12_00050r.jpg"/> produced the evidence in support of their claim.
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I have etc.
<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:reeve">Henry Reeve</persName>
<lb/>
Reg. P.C.
<lb/>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName><lb/>
<persName ref="prs:murdoch_twc">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Murdoch</persName>?
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1861-06-29">
29 June
</date>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:fortescue">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Fortescue</persName><lb/>
I annex a draft of a letter to the H.B.<choice><abbr>C<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></abbr><expan>Company</expan></choice> proposing what seems to
me (and I think to the Comp<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">ys</hi> Solicitor to whom I have spoken on
the subject) the proper course. And to prevent cross-proposals I
have written privately to <persName ref="prs:maynard">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Maynard</persName> to inform him that
such a letter may probably be sent.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
<date when="1861-07-05">
5/7
</date>
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Draft, <persName ref="prs:fortescue">Fortescue</persName> to <persName ref="prs:berens_hh">H.H. Berens</persName>, <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName>, <date when="1861-07-12">12 July 1861</date>,
concerning petitions by the company regarding certain lands occupied on <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName>.
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