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<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)</persName>
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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Public Offices document. 
                Minutes (5), Other documents (1), Marginalia (1).</p>
<p style="font-style: italic;">This document contains mentions of Indigenous Peoples. The authors of these documents often perpetuate a negative perspective of Indigenous Peoples and it is important to look critically at these mentions. They sometimes use terminology that is now considered hurtful and offensive.  To learn more about modern terminology pertaining to Indigenous Peoples, Indigenous ways of knowing, and decolonization, please refer to the <ref target="cdc:glossaryIP">Glossary of terms</ref>.</p>
<p>Peel offers the <orgName ref="org:treasury">Treasury</orgName>’s opinions on <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>’s <q>Ordinance No 16 of 1864—to amend the Customs Duties</q> which removed a prior Ordinance requiring vessels trading in <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">BC</placeName> north of the <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser River</placeName> to clear customs on <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName>. The <orgName ref="org:treasury">Treasury</orgName> agrees that ships should not be obligated to clear at <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName> but recommends that a clearing house be constructed at <placeName ref="plc:point_roberts">Point Roberts</placeName> or at <q>some more continent point on the sea coast</q> so that ships don’t have to <q>go out of their course</q> and clear customs at <placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName>.
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Treasury Chambers
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<text><body><div type="public_offices">
<head>
Peel to Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">11188, CO 60/20, p. 244; received 6 December
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
Treasury Chambers
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1864-12-05">5<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> December 1864</date>
<salute>Sir,</salute>
</opener>
<p>
With reference to your letter of <date when="1864-10-13">13<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> October last</date>,
I am commanded by the Lords Commissioners of Her Majesty's
Treasury to acquaint you that They have had under Their
consideration the <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> Ordinance No 16 of
<date when="1864">1864</date>—to amend the Customs Duties together with the despatch
from the Governor submitting certain observations upon the
fourth Clause<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">which</fw><pb facs="co_60_20/co_60_20_00246v.jpg"/> which repeals the existing authority for
the clearance of Vessels in <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName> for any port
of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> North of <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser River</placeName>—or the payment of
Customs Duties of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> in any part of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName>.
</p>
<p>
My Lords have no objection to the first three clauses
of the Ordinance.
</p>
<p>
With regard to the fourth clause My Lords see no reason
to dissent from the view taken by <persName ref="prs:cardwell">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Secretary Cardwell</persName>
that the enactment is a legitimate exercise of the Powers of
the <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> Legislature, but They think<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">that</fw><pb facs="co_60_20/co_60_20_00247r.jpg"/> that, before
the Ordinance is submitted to Her Majesty for confirmation,
full opportunity should be given for any representations
to be made from <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName> touching the probable
effect of the measure upon the trade of the two Colonies.

<ref target="#marg1">*</ref>

</p>
<p>
My Lords are not aware what ports there may be in
<placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> North of the <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser River</placeName> and now open
for traffic or what means the Government of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>
have or intend to have for levying Customs Duties at such
ports, but They observe that the Governor in the 4<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi>
 paragraph<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">of</fw><pb facs="co_60_20/co_60_20_00247v.jpg"/> of his despatch of <date when="1864-06-06">6<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> June</date>, states that
"Vessels going to engage in the very profitable Traffic
with the <name type="ip" subtype="group">Northern Indians</name> will have to clear at <placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName>."
</p>
<p>
If this means that all Vessels bound to places North
of the <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser River</placeName> are in future to go up that River to
<placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName> to get a clearance and to pay the Customs
Duties, which would evidently take them out of their course,
it is not improbable that Shipowners and Traders generally
will complain of the new regulations especially considering
that the Ship<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Channel</fw><pb facs="co_60_20/co_60_20_00248r.jpg"/> Channel into the River has been described as
winding in a tortuous and narrow passage through the sand,
a navigation somewhat dangerous.
</p>
<p>
The Despatch from <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Governor Douglas</persName> of <date when="1858-11-03">3<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rd</hi> November
1858</date>, relating to the Selection of one or more Seaport Towns
for the Colony of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> contains some remarks
bearing upon the question now under consideration.
</p>
<p>
The 13<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> paragraph of that despatch has reference to
the arrangement hitherto in force for allowing Vessels to
clear at<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Vancouver's</fw><pb facs="co_60_20/co_60_20_00248v.jpg"/> <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName>, but the 11<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> paragraph
suggests that, for the convenience of general Trade and to
prevent the risks and delays consequent on entering the
River, a Customs Officer might be stationed at <placeName ref="plc:point_roberts">Point Roberts</placeName>
or at some more convenient point on the sea coast, outside
of <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser River</placeName>, to enter ships bound to other places in the
<placeName ref="plc:strait_of_georgia">Gulf of Georgia</placeName> north of <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser River</placeName>.
</p>
<p>
In the event of its being decided to allow the Ordinance
My Lords would suggest that<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">some</fw><pb facs="co_60_20/co_60_20_00249r.jpg"/> some provision should be made for
affording facilities to Vessels bound for places North of
the <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser River</placeName> in obtaining clearance and paying the Customs
Duties without being compelled to go out of their course.
</p>
<closer>
I am, Sir,
<lb/>
 your obedient Servant,<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:peel_f">F. Peel</persName>
<lb/>
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<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName><lb/>
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:jadis_v">VJ</persName>
<date when="1864-12-06">
6 Dec<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
</date>
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Write to <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> that as no representation adverse
to this Act had been received from <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">V.C.I.</placeName> or
from <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B.C.</placeName> HM had been pleased to approve &amp; confirm it.
</ab>
<p>
Observe however that it <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice>
seem from <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Seymour</persName>s dph that the vessels trading
with the Northern parts of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">BC</placeName> <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> be obliged to
come to <placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName> in order to clear, <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice>
<choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> take them considerably out of their course. Refer
to the 11<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> parag of <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Gov. Douglas</persName> dph of
<date when="1858-11-03">3 Nov. 1858</date> and suggest the expediency of placing a
Custom House if possible at <placeName ref="plc:point_roberts">Point Roberts</placeName> &amp;c as in
Trea<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi> letter but wait for <orgName ref="org:board_trade">B of Trade</orgName> rep.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
<date when="1864-12-07">
7/12
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Sir J Douglas</persName>' dph is printed in PP <date when="1859-08-12">12, Aug 1859</date>, p. 19.
</ab>
<closer><signed>[<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>]
</signed>
<signed><persName ref="prs:fortescue">CF</persName>
<date when="1864-12-08">
8
</date>
</signed>
<signed><persName ref="prs:cardwell">EC</persName>
<date when="1864-12-10">
10
</date>
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<ab>
See Trade/11899.
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<div type="other_entry"><div><pb facs="co_60_20/co_60_20_00250r.jpg"/>
<ab>
 Draft reply, <persName ref="prs:cardwell">Cardwell</persName> to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>, No. 63, <date when="1864-12-31">31 December 1864</date>, approving of the Ordinance and outlining the <orgName ref="org:treasury">Treasury</orgName>’s recommendations.
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<ab>
(For to-morrow's Mail.)
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1864-12-31">
31/12
</date>
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None have as yet been received.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:jadis_v">VJ</persName>
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