<persName ref="prs:seymour_f"><surname>Seymour</surname>, <forename>Frederick</forename></persName> to <persName ref="prs:cardwell"><surname>Cardwell</surname>, <forename>Edward</forename></persName> 4 February 1865, CO 60:21, no. 4583, 56. Seymour addressee Cardwell

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Seymour, Frederick to Cardwell, Edward 4 February 1865, CO 60:21, no. 4583, 56.The Colonial Despatches of Vancouver Island and British Columbia 1846-1871, Edition 2.6, ed. James Hendrickson and the Colonial Despatches project. Victoria, B.C.: University of Victoria. https://bcgenesis.uvic.ca/B65009.html. CO 60:21 CO 60 21 4583 56 9 B.C. 1865 received 15 May co_60_21_00057r.jpg Transcribed from microfilm archives, marked up in Waterloo Script, then transformed into TEI P5 XML.

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Despatch to London. Minutes (5), Other documents (1).

Seymour reports that the alleged illegal seizure of a vessel suspected of smuggling, raised the question as to the limits of the respective Colonies of British Columbia and Vancouver Island in the Gulf of Georgia and requests clarification about which of the Islands adjoining this Coast are within its jurisdiction. Rogers, Fortescue, and Cardwell minute various interpretations of the division of the two colonies, before finally deciding to forward the matter to the Land Office.

Seymour, Frederick Cardwell, Edward Inserted revisionDesc. Added abstract. Written by Josiah Snell.
No. 9 4583, CO 60/21, p. 56; received 15 May 4th February 1865 Sir,

A Notice of Action given to Lieutenant Verney, Commanding Her Majesty's Ship "Grappler," for the alleged illegal seizure of a vessel suspected of smuggling, raised the question as to the limits of the respective Colonies of British Columbia and VancouverIsland Island in the Gulf of Georgia. As the one Government is supported mainly by heavy Customs duties, and the other by direct taxation, the matter is of considerable importance.

2. My Commission gives me authority over Queen Charlotte's Island and "all other Islands adjacent to" this "territory, except Vancouver Island and the Islands Adjacent thereto." My Attorney-General is of opinion that the exceptionmust must be construed in the narrowest manner and that all the Islands in the Gulf of Georgia, with the exception of those immediately contiguous to Vancouver Island must be considered as within the Government of British Columbia. I observe too that Governor Kennedy's Commission specially withdraws from his jurisdiction any of the Islands South of the forty-ninth degree of North Latitude.

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3. It would be a great assistance to the Government if you would inform me which of the Islands adjoining this Coast are within its jurisdiction and are consequently subject to the operation of our Customs Laws.

I have the honor to be, Sir, Your most obedient humble Servant Frederick Seymour
Sir F. Rogers ABd 17 May
A provoking kind of question. In 1849 V.C. Island (witht appurtenances) was granted to the HBC.

In the same year GovrGovernor Blanshard was by his commission declared GovrGovernor of "V.C.I. and the islands adjacent." This was repeated in GovrGovernor Douglas' commission 1851. 21 & 22 Victoria, c. 99 1858 defined B. Columbia declaring that no part of the "Colony of V.C.I." shdshould be comprised therein and 26 & 27 Vict. c. 83 (1863) defined B. Columbia to comprise such & such Territories "except V.C.I. and the Islands adjacent thereto."

I should be disposed to include in VCI 1. All those island (being in HM's dominion) whwhich are south of the 49th Parallel. 2. Those whwhich are on the Vancouver side of the main channel between that Island & the mainland.

The word "adjacent"—being used in an Act of Parlt cannot be conclusively interpreted by the Executive—but I shdshould think the question mt be practically settled by asking the Admiralty to advise us as to a line, and directing the two Governors to adopt it.

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The "main channel" should probably be taken to be the channel adopted by the F.O. in their negociations with the U.S. GovtGovernment as far as it goes. CF 19
Let F.O. see Despatch before it goes: if it can fairly have the bearing whwhich F. suggests. EC 23
The department have brt to my notice an Act of Parlt (12 & 13 Vict. c. 48) of the existence of whwhich I was unaware when I wrote my minute upon 4583 B. Columbia, & also when I drafted the B. Columbia Act 26 & 27 Vict. c. 83.

The result is, that the boundary question is more perplexed than I thought.

The Act 12 & 13 Vict. c. 48. SS 4 defines V.C.I. to contain "all such Islands adjacent to V.C.I. or to the western coast of N. America & forming part of the Dominion of H.M. as and to the southward of the 52nd degree of N. Lat."

The Act 21 & 22 Vict. c 99. SS 6 declared that "no part of the Colony of V.C.I. as at present established shall be comprised within B. Columbia" leaving all the above Islands to V.C.I.

But the Act 26 & 27 Vict. c. 83. SS 3 repealed the 1st section of the Act 21 & 22 Vict.—continued the remaining Sections including of course SS 6.1 till 31 Dec 1863 (SS 2) and then enacted (SS 3) that B. Columbia should comprise "Queen Charlottes Island & all other Islands adjacent to the said Territories" (viz the mainland of B. Columbia) "except Vancouvers Island & the Islands adjacent thereto" omitting to except & therefore, it may be argued, including in B Columbia the islands in the Gulf of Georgia &c which are adjacent to the "W. Coast of North America" than to V.C.I.

The Governors Commission (by whwhich I was guided when drafting the Act of 26 & 27 Vict) defines the Colony as including V.C.I. & the Islands adjacent thereto, witht mention of the W. Coast of N.A.

I believe it will be safest to ask the L.O. whether under these Acts the Islands adjacent to the W.C. of N America belong to B. Columbia or to V.C.I.

If they all continue to belong to V.C. Island it will simplify the question, & also I suppose will much facilitate smuggling into B.C. But it will not be a natural division.

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Rogers to Attorney General and Solicitor General, 7 June 1865, referring the question of the territorial division between the colonies for their opinion.