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<persName ref="prs:cardwell">Cardwell</persName>
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<head>
No. 89
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<opener><ref type="co_ref">8621, CO 60/22, p. 155; received 7 September
</ref>
<date when="1865-06-30">30<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> June 1865</date>
<salute>Sir,</salute>
</opener>
<p>
I have had the honor to receive your despatch No. 6 of
<date when="1865-02-18">18<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> February</date>, informing me that <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName> reports a
sale of his interest in the Public Works in the Colony and
directing<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">me</fw><pb facs="co_60_22/co_60_22_00156v.jpg"/> me upon his producing any evidence requisite to
satisfy me of the completion of the transaction, to continue
to take advantage of his Services in an Office for which he
has been described to possess valuable qualifications.
</p>
<p>
2. I have now the honor to forward Copy of the correspondence
which passed between <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName> and myself on the subject referred
to in your despatch on his return to the Colony as well as the
opinion<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">of</fw><pb facs="co_60_22/co_60_22_00157r.jpg"/> of the Members of the Executive Council upon <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName>'s
proposal to transfer his right in the Alexandra Bridge to his
brother. You will observe that I have thought it better to
allow <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName> openly to possess an interest in one of the
competing roads to the mines, rather than sanction an arrangement
which would have appeared a deception upon the Public.
</p>
<p>
3. The position in which<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></fw><pb facs="co_60_22/co_60_22_00157v.jpg"/> <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName> is placed must necessarily
prevent my availing myself of his Services to the extent which I
would do if he were independent of local influences, yet I
see no alternative other than to place <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName> in possession
of the Office to which he was appointed by your predecessors. I
have no one now residing in the Colony on whom I could temporarily
confer the Appointment of Surveyor General.
</p>
<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">4. I think</fw><pb facs="co_60_22/co_60_22_00158r.jpg"/>
<p>
4. I think that those who recommended <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName> for the
Office he holds should have mentioned his peculiar position in
regard to the Public Works of this Colony.

<ref target="#marg1">*</ref>

His appointment has
caused considerable inconvenience and one of the most important
situations in the Colony has been, with the exception of a few
months, in abeyance ever since I have administered the Government.
</p>
<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">I have</fw><pb facs="co_60_22/co_60_22_00158v.jpg"/>
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I have the honor to be,<lb/>
Sir,<lb/>
Your most obedient<lb/>
humble Servant<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Frederick Seymour</persName>
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<ab><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf"><hi style="text-decoration: underline;">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</hi></persName><lb/>
After all that has passed, there is nothing else to be
done, I apprehend, than to sanction the course taken under
the circes, by the Governor. But the sanction might be
accompanied by the expression of some injunction on the part
of this Office that no opp<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi> be lost by <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName> for
parting with the Bridge.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1865-09-07">
7 Sep
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:cardwell">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Cardwell</persName><lb/>
Probably nothing better can be done under the circumstances.
There is a good deal that might be said on this subject, but
it would be rather long to say it in writing.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1865-09-08">
8 Sep
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
An illusory transfer will be worse than none. This may wait a
short time in case <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Seymour</persName> fulfills his intention of coming
home. If not, let it come to me again.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:cardwell">EC</persName>
<date when="1865-09-12">
12
</date>
</signed>
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<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName><lb/>
You remember the case of <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName>. He was appointed
Surveyor General of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> by the <persName ref="prs:newcastle">Duke of Newcastle</persName>.
He was the best—nay the only elegible man in the Colony for
the post, but he had interests in certain public works which
were incompatible with his Office. It therefore became necessary
that he <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> divest himself of these interests. He sold
one interest out and out, the remaining interest he arranged
to dispose of to his Brother who was to pay him a certain
sum down, &amp; the rest by instalments. The Governor naturally
thought this was an illusory sale of property, and has allowed
<persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName>—see 8621/<date when="1865">65</date>—to possess openly his interest in the
Alexandra Bridge &amp; Road. The Governor's arrangement has never
been approved or disapproved. He has waited the convenient
moment for settlement. As <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Seymour</persName> has been continued in
the Office of Governor of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B.C.</placeName>, and is about to return there
I think it is proper that<pb facs="co_60_22/co_60_22_00186v.jpg"/> the matter should be disposed of, and
I submit the papers accordingly. I need not here repeat that
I have throughout held that it was very objectionable to
appoint a man to an Office who had private interests in the
department over which he presided, and I should myself have
insisted on his giving up either his Office or his private
gains; but the case has trained on so long without complaint
that I trust that the public interests will not be found really
to suffer in the hands of <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Trutch</persName>. I see, therefore, nothing
else to do except to sanction the course reported by the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice>
on the <date when="1865-06-30">30 June 65</date>/8621, under the special circes of the case.
</ab>
<p>
But see a note of <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Seymour</persName>s of the <date when="1865-08-16">16 Aug<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></date> which
followed me into the Country.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1865-09-04">
4 Sep<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> 1866
</date>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Blackwood</persName>'s memo shows the case. It is by no means
easy to get a good Surveyor for such a Colony, and after <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
Trutch</persName> has been serving well for some years with no complaint,
I should certainly not move him on the strength of an offhand
private note from <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Seymour</persName>, but should make it necessary for
him to express his opinion, and it's reasons, in an official and
responsible manner. I annex a draft for the purpose.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1865-09-28">
28 Sep
</date>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">J.W. Trutch</persName>, Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works, to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>,
<date when="1865-05-29">29 May 1865</date>, advising of the sale of his interest in the Alexandra
Bridge to his brother, and his interest in the Thompson Bridge to
<persName ref="prs:spence_t">Thomas Spence</persName>.
</ab>
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<ab>
Memorandum of Agreement between <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">Joseph William Trutch</persName> and <persName ref="prs:trutch_j">John
Trutch</persName>, <date when="1865-03-09">9 March 1865</date>.
</ab>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:birch">A.N. Birch</persName>, Colonial Secretary, to <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">J.W. Trutch</persName>, <date when="1865-06-22">22 June 1865</date>,
advising that sale of his interest to his brother would not be
"satisfactory to the public," but appointing him to possession of
the civil office with certain qualifications.
</ab>
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<ab>
Minute of <persName ref="prs:birch">Birch</persName>, <date when="1865-06-05">5 June 1865</date>, expressing opinion
that the proposed transaction in no way released <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">Trutch</persName> from his
interest in the bridge, and that to hold the property openly was
preferable to an illusionary transfer.
</ab>
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<ab>
Minute of <persName ref="prs:crease">H.P.P. Crease</persName>, Attorney General, <date when="1865-06-05">5 June 1865</date>, advising
that sale to his brother did not appear to constitute a real transfer
of the property and that it was better for his possession to be open.
</ab>
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<ab>
Minute of <persName ref="prs:franks_c">C.W. Franks</persName>, Treasurer, <date when="1865-06-01">1 June 1865</date>, disapproving of
the proposed arrangement and expressing opinion that <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">Trutch</persName> be
allowed to retain the bridge and the appointment.
</ab>
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<ab>
Minute of <persName ref="prs:hamley_wo">W. Hamley</persName>, Collector of Customs, <date when="1865-06-01">1 June 1865</date>, advising
that it was in the best interests of the colony that <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">Trutch</persName> be
appointed, but commenting that sale of the assets should be actively
pursued.
</ab>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> to <persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">Blackwood</persName>, <date when="1865-08-16">16 August 1865</date>, expressing opinion that it
would not be wise to deviate from principle and accepted practice by
appointing <persName ref="prs:trutch_jw">Trutch</persName> while he held private interests which must
interfere with his public duties.
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Draft reply, <persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Carnarvon</persName> to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>, No. 11, <date when="1866-10-01">1 October 1866</date>.
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<persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Sir J. Douglas</persName> did mention them.
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