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Childers to Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)
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<opener><ref type="co_ref">10639, CO 60/23, p. 187; received 1 November
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Treasury Chambers
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<date when="1865-10-31">31<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> October 1865</date>
<salute>Sir</salute>
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<p>
With reference to your letter of the <date when="1865-10-31">3<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rd</hi> Instant</date>, and
its enclosures, I am desired by the Lords Commissioners of
<orgName ref="org:treasury">Her Majesty's Treasury</orgName> to state for the information of <persName ref="prs:cardwell">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
Secretary Cardwell</persName>, that Their Lordships have had under
consideration the Ordinance N<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">o</hi> 3 of <date when="1865">1865</date>, which has
been passed by the Legislature of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>, entitled
"An Ordinance to amend the duties of Customs" together with
the despatches from the Governor, and other papers relating
to the objections that have been taken<pb facs="co_60_23/co_60_23_00188v.jpg"/> to the measure in
the adjoining Colony of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName>.
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<p>
Their Lordships desire me to request that you will
state to <persName ref="prs:cardwell">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Secretary Cardwell</persName> that They see no sufficient
reason, on legal grounds, for interfering with the proceedings
of the Legislature of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> in this matter, or for
witholding Her Majesty's confirmation of the Ordinance.
</p>
<p>
I am, however, to add that my Lords observe that the value
of articles subjected by this Ordinance to ad valorem duties
is to be reckoned according to their value at the place of
Shipment instead of at the place of Entry. Such a regulation
is, so far as My Lords are aware, without precedent in the
Customs<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Laws</fw><pb facs="co_60_23/co_60_23_00189r.jpg"/> Laws of British Possessions; and it will have the
result of subjecting articles, identical in all respects,
and of the same price to the Consumer, to different rates
of duty, according to the Country from which they may have
been shipped; thus, in effect, if not in words, establishing
a system of differential duties.
</p>
<p>
Before, therefore, the Ordinance is submitted for Her
Majesty's confirmation, Their Lordships suggest that this
point should receive the attention of the Secretary of State
for the Colonies.
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I am Sir<lb/>
Your obedient Servant<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:childers">Hugh C.E. Childers</persName>
<lb/>
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<closer rend="postscript">[P.S.] The printed enclosures to your letter, except the Ordinance,
are returned herewith.
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<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName><lb/>
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<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName><lb/>
See <orgName ref="org:board_trade">Board of Trade</orgName> 9893.
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<closer><signed>[<persName ref="prs:jadis_v">VJ</persName>]
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<ab><hi style="text-decoration: underline;"><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName></hi><lb/>
The Colonists of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver</placeName> took the strongest
exception to the clause about value at last place of
Shipment, which they considered to be levelled against
them. This letter supports the same view, that it is
contrary to principle and I should think that the Enactment
ought not to be assented to.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1865-11-03">
3/11
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I think so too—till this clause is altered.
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<p>
It is a differential duty in favour of those countries
in which production is cheap. This form of objection
(as a differential duty) justifies Imperial interference
more than that <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> I made in a Minute on 6176 <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B.C.</placeName> In
substance the two objections are one.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
<date when="1865-11-03">
3/11
</date>
</signed>
<signed><persName ref="prs:cardwell">EC</persName>
<date when="1865-11-04">
4
</date>
</signed>
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<ab><hi style="text-decoration: underline;"><persName ref="prs:jadis_v">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Jadis</persName></hi><lb/>
See the minutes on this letter.
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<p>
Will you prepare a draft sending to the Colony the
extract which I have marked of B<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> of Trade dated
<date when="1865-10-13">13 Oct<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></date> and a copy of the present Treasury letter.
</p>
<p>
Draw attention to the remarks made by the Board
of Trade on the subject of the high rate of duty on
some of the articles included in the proposed tariff.
</p>
<pb facs="co_60_23/co_60_23_00190v.jpg"/>
<p>
The Acting Governor will perceive the remarks made
by the L.C. of <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> on the provision for subjecting
articles indentical in all respects, and of the same price
to the consumer, to different rates of duty, according
to the Country from which they may have been shipped.
State that until this Enactment, which is contrary to
precedent and unadvizable in principle, shall be altered,
it would be out of <persName ref="prs:cardwell">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Cardwell</persName>'s power to recommend the
<pb facs="co_60_23/co_60_23_00191r.jpg"/>Ordinance for confirmation, but that he refrains from
advising it's disallowance until there shall have been time
for correcting the objectionable clause.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1865-11-06">
6 Nov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
</date>
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Draft reply, <persName ref="prs:cardwell">Cardwell</persName> to Officer Administering the Government,
No. 89, <date when="1865-11-11">11 November 1865</date>.
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