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<persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Carnarvon (Parliamentary Under-Secretary)</persName>
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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Despatch to London. 
                Minutes (6), Enclosures (untranscribed) (1), Other documents (1).</p>

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<persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> relates why he called on <persName ref="prs:birch">Birch</persName>, <q>the Officer lately Administering the Government,</q> to clarify <q>the claims for Interest and Sinking Fund on the Loans of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>.</q> <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> also promises <q>the punctual remittance of sufficient means to meet the claims of … London Creditors.</q> <persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">Blackwood</persName>’s minute acknowledges <persName ref="prs:birch">Birch</persName>’s difficult position, which resulted from <q>the Manager of the Bank of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B.C.</placeName></q> failing to communicate <q>with the Directors in England.</q> From the <q>Bank of Columbia,</q> <persName ref="prs:wedgewood_eh">Wedgewood</persName>’s minute explains the loans and payments between the united colony of British Columbia and the Bank of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>.
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No. 17
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<opener><ref type="co_ref">1942, CO 60/27, p. 33; received 25 February
</ref>
<date when="1867-01-09">9<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> January 1867</date>
<salute>My Lord,</salute>
</opener>
<p>
I have had the honor to receive your Lordship's despatch No. 17
of <date when="1866-10-30">30<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> October 1866</date> informing me of the circumstances under
which the <orgName ref="org:ocac">Crown Agents</orgName> had been<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">compelled</fw><pb facs="co_60_27/co_60_27_00034v.jpg"/> compelled to satisfy from funds
in their possession the claims for Interest and Sinking Fund
on the Loans of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> to the amount of four thousand
one hundred and twenty five pounds (£4,125).
</p>
<p>
2. As the circumstances which imposed this obligation
upon the <orgName ref="org:ocac">Crown Agents</orgName> arose before my resumption of this Government,
I have called upon the Officer lately Administering the Government
for an explanation. This<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">I</fw><pb facs="co_60_27/co_60_27_00035r.jpg"/> I have the honor to enclose.
</p>
<p>
3. Your Lordship may depend upon the punctual remittance of
sufficient means to meet the claims of our London Creditors.
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I have the honor to be,<lb/>
My Lord,<lb/>
Your most obedient<lb/>
humble Servant<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Frederick Seymour</persName>
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<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName><lb/>
As the Manager of the Bank of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B.C.</placeName> did not fulfil his
promise of communicating with the Directors in England <persName ref="prs:birch">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
Birch</persName> was necessarily put into a wrong position. I should
say that the Bank ought to be made acquainted with the
neglect of their late Officer by way of explaining <persName ref="prs:birch">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
Birch</persName>'s proceeding. <persName ref="prs:seymour_f"><choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> Seymour</persName> promises to keep faith
with London Creditors.
</ab>
<p>
If <persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Lord Carnarvon</persName> thinks their explanation sufficient
a despatch <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> be written saying so.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1867-02-25">
25 Feb
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
I annex a draft to the Bank of Columbia. The reply to the
Governor might, I think, be deferred for their answer.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1867-02-26">
26/2
</date>
</signed>
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<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName><lb/>
Under the <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> Loan Ordinance the following
sums become annually due and are paid by the <orgName ref="org:ocac">Crown Agents</orgName>; viz<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi>
<milestone unit="section" rend=".in +6 -0"/>
<lb/>
1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> January £6250
<lb/>
1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> April £4125
<lb/>
1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> July £6250
<lb/>
1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> October £4125
<milestone unit="section" rend=".in -6 +0"/>
</ab>
<p>
These sums are to provide for both the interest on the
Debentures and for the Sinking Fund.
</p>
<p>
On the <date when="1866-06-27">27<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> of June</date> the <orgName ref="org:ocac">Crown Agents</orgName> informed this Office
that they had been requested by the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice> of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>
to draw a Bill on the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice> for the payment of the £6250,
due on the <date when="1866-07-01">1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> of July</date>. The Agents also gave a statement
of the account between them<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">and</fw><pb facs="co_60_27/co_60_27_00036v.jpg"/> and the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice> of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B.C</placeName>, by
which it appeared that if they did not draw the Bill and if
<orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> did not pay over to the Colony the £9000 due on
Military Account, the sum of £6713, would have to be met on the
<date when="1866-07-17">17<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> of July</date>. This letter was referred to <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> (<date when="1866-06-28">28 June</date>),
and the <orgName ref="org:ocac">Crown Agents</orgName> told to pay the £6250 on the proper
date. <orgName ref="org:treasury">The Treasury</orgName> acquainted us in answer (Treas/6449) that the Agents
had been supplied with sufficient funds, to meet the £6713
on the <date when="1866-07-17">17<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> of July</date>, partly from the balance of the Vote
for <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B.C.</placeName> for the year <date from="1863" to="1864">1863-64</date> and partly from Civil contingencies.
</p>
<p>
On the <date when="1866-10-16">16<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> of October</date> the Agents again reported (Agents/9847)
 the request of the <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B.C.</placeName><pb facs="co_60_27/co_60_27_00037r.jpg"/> <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice> that the payment of the interest
and sinking fund to the amount of £4125, due on the first of
the same month, might be met [by] a Bill drawn on the Bank and
to be honoured by the Bank of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>, in <placeName ref="plc:london">London</placeName>,
that the Agents had done so but that the Bank declined to honour
the Bill, and that they had therefore paid the sum out of funds
belonging to other Colonies, to save the credit of the Colony.
This was approved by the <choice><abbr>Se<choice><abbr>c<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></abbr><expan>company</expan></choice></abbr><expan>Secretary</expan></choice> of State on the <date when="1866-10-31">31<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> of
October</date> and a very severe despatch to the Governor (N<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">o</hi> 17 of the <date when="1866-10-30">30
October</date>) calling his attention to the subject, and instructions to
immediately repay the advances thus made and to provide for future
payments.
</p>
<p>
But on the <date when="1866-12-26">26<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> of December</date> the Agents (Agents/12205) once
 more called attention<pb facs="co_60_27/co_60_27_00037v.jpg"/> to the fact that there were no funds to pay
the sum of £6250 falling due on the approaching <date when="1867-01-01">1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> of
January</date> and asking from whence it was to be paid. They were
informed in reply (<date when="1866-12-29">29 Dec<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></date>) that the
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">interest</hi> £3000 was to be paid
out of the funds in their hands, belonging to other Colonies,
but that all payments on account of the Sinking Fund were to
be deferred; and a still stronger despatch (N<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">o</hi> 1 <date when="1867-01-01">1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> Jan/67</date>)
than the one of the
<date when="1866-10-30">30<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> of October</date>, was sent to the Governor instructing him
to repay these sums, and to send home money to provide for
future payments. On the <date when="1867-01-17">17<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> of January</date> the Agents sent to this
Office (Agents 497) a correspondence between the Colonial <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice>,
themselves, and the Bank with reference to the means of
providing for the payment, due on the <date when="1867-01-01">1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> of January</date> by drawing Bills.
</p><pb facs="co_60_27/co_60_27_00038r.jpg"/>
<p>
This letter was sent to <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> (<date when="1867-02-14">14<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> Feb<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></date>) with a
proposal that the Governor should be informed that this plan of
providing for these payments by drawing Bills on a Bank, is most
objectionable and that it must cease.
</p>
<p>
<orgName ref="org:treasury">The Treasury</orgName> have not yet answered this letter.
</p>
<p>
In the mean time <persName ref="prs:birch">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Birch</persName>s explanation has been received
(Gov 17/1942 <date when="1867-01-09">9 Jan</date>),
and by this it appears that it was agreed between himself and
the Manager, in the Colony, of the Bank, that the Bank in <placeName ref="plc:london">London</placeName>
should honour the Bill and it is apparently owing to the neglect
of the Manager to report this arrangement to the Directors in
<placeName ref="plc:london">London</placeName> that the Agents have had to apply sums belonging to
 other Colonies for the<pb facs="co_60_27/co_60_27_00038v.jpg"/> service of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B. Columbia</placeName>.
</p>
<p>
This minute of <persName ref="prs:birch">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Birch</persName>'s has been sent to the Bank (<date when="1867-02-28">28 Feb</date>)
for any observations, which however as yet have not been received.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:wedgewood_eh">EHW</persName>
<date when="1867-03-15">
15 March/67
</date>
</signed>
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<ab><hi style="text-decoration: underline;"><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName></hi><lb/>
See Minutes on the Governor's despatch 1942 &amp; the draft
to <persName ref="prs:mackean">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Mackean</persName>. As <persName ref="prs:mackean">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> M.</persName> never ans<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> "put by"?
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:cox_c">CC</persName>
<date when="1867-07-09">
9 July
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
Yes, put by.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
<date when="1867-07-09">
9/7
</date>
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<ab>
Minute of <persName ref="prs:birch">A.N. Birch</persName>, no date, giving particulars of an
arrangement made with the local manager of the Bank of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British
Columbia</placeName> for acceptance of the colonial bills.
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">Elliot</persName> to <persName ref="prs:mackean">T.W.L. MacKean</persName>, <date when="1867-02-28">28 February 1867</date>, forwarding copy of
<persName ref="prs:birch">Birch</persName>'s minute for information, with reference to bills previously
refused by the bank.
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<ab>
We might as well wait to see what answer is made to
this letter before writing any reply to the Governor.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">[TFE]</persName>
</signed>
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