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<author><persName ref="prs:fraser_d">Fraser</persName></author>
<respStmt><resp>addressee</resp>
<persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Buckingham</persName>
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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Correspondence (private letter). 
                Minutes (6), Enclosures (untranscribed) (2), Other documents (2).</p>

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<persName ref="prs:fraser_d">Fraser</persName> reminds <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Buckingham</persName> that a delegation of <q>Memorialists</q> are available to meet with <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Buckingham</persName> regarding choosing <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> as the seat of government in <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>. <persName ref="prs:fraser_d">Fraser</persName> describes the reasons why <persName ref="prs:fraser_d">Fraser</persName> wants <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> as the seat of government. <persName ref="prs:fraser_d">Fraser</persName> encloses notes from <persName ref="prs:richards_gh">Richards</persName> supporting <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> as the seat of Government. <persName ref="prs:fraser_d">Fraser</persName> describes two maritime accidents involving the <name ref="vsl:malacca" type="vessel">Malacca</name> and the <name ref="vsl:tribune" type="vessel">Tribune</name>, which were travelling from <placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName>, citing these accidents as reasons against selecting <placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName> as the seat of government. Minutes by <persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">Elliot</persName>, <persName ref="prs:adderley_cb">Adderley</persName>, and <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Buckingham</persName> discuss whether <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> should be notified that <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Buckingham</persName> is aware of the Legislative Assembly’s resolution to name <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> the seat of government in <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>.
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33 St James Square
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London
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<text><body><div type="correspondence">
<head>
Fraser to Buckingham
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">7739, CO 60/31, p. 241; registered 10 August
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
33 S<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> James Square
</addrLine>
<addrLine>
London
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1867-08-09">August 9, 1867</date>
<salute>My Lord Duke,</salute>
</opener>
<p>
In conjunction with other Gentlemen interested in <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British
Columbia</placeName> I had the honour to transmit on the <date when="1867-07-24">24<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> Ultimo</date>, A
Memorial to Your Grace on the subject of the site of the Capital of
that Colony.
</p>
<p>
2. It was suggested that if Your Grace should desire further
information on the subject matter of the Memorial or on the affairs
of the Colony generally, some of the Memorialists would visit upon
Your Grace for the purpose of furnishing such information.
</p>
<p>
3. As some of these Memorialists are about to leave <placeName ref="plc:london">London</placeName>; and
as we have not received any intimation from The <orgName ref="org:colonial_office">Colonial Office</orgName> on
the subject of the Memorial, I beg respectfully to call your Grace's
attention to the matter.
</p>
<p>
4. I feel persuaded Your Grace will pardon me for doing so when
I state that my interest in the Colony as a Landowner is greater than
that of<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">any</fw><pb facs="co_60_31/co_60_31_00242v.jpg"/> any of the other Memorialists—that I am pressed by many of
the Colonists to bring the matter of the Capital under the notice of
the Government—and that I consequently feel Considerable anxiety on
the question at issue.
</p>
<p>
5. The other Gentlemen who moved in this matter having left it
very much in my hands, I would state that the Memorialists, although
ready to meet Your Grace if required, do not wish to press a formal
Deputation upon you, knowing how much Your Grace's time is occupied at
present.
</p>
<p>
6. It has therefore been suggested that I should offer to your
Grace such information as my experience, gained by long residence and
varied relations with the Colony may enable me to supply; and I beg
to state that I shall be happy to adopt this suggestion should your
Grace wish to see me.
</p>
<p>
7. I beg leave to avail of this opportunity to enclose for Your
Grace's information two Notes written to me by <persName ref="prs:richards_gh">Cap<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">n</hi> Richards</persName>, the
Hydrographer, on the question of the most suitable position for the
Capital.
</p>
<p>
8. <persName ref="prs:richards_gh">Captain Richards</persName>' testimony in favour of <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> confirms
the truth of the statements made in the Memorial on this head and
justifies the prayers of the Memorialists to have the Capital placed
there.
</p><pb facs="co_60_31/co_60_31_00243r.jpg"/>
<p>
9. <persName ref="prs:richards_gh">Capt<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">n</hi> Richards</persName>' private character and professional
position guarantee any opinion he gives; but in this case, the value
of his opinion is enhanced by the fact that his knowledge of the
locality was gained by long personal experience while on the Survey
of the North West Coast for several years during which period he
visited <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser River</placeName> and all parts adjacent often.
</p>
<p>
10. In further corroboration of the accuracy of our Statements
as to the unsuitableness of <placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName> I beg to bring to Your
Grace's knowledge the fact that in <date when="1867-06">June last</date> Her Majesty's Ship
"<name ref="vsl:malacca" type="vessel">Malacca</name>" when bringing <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Governor Seymour</persName> from <placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName> to
<placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> Struck and took the ground upon The <placeName ref="plc:sand_heads">Sand Heads</placeName> off the Mouth
of <placeName ref="plc:fraser_river">Fraser River</placeName> and remained there in a dangerous position for a
whole night, although the Ship had the benefit of <persName ref="prs:cooper_captain">Captain Cooper</persName> the
Harbour Master's presence on board to navigate her.
</p>
<p>
11. It is added by a Gentleman in the Colony writing from the
spot and whose letter I received Yesterday that
<milestone unit="section" rend=".ind on"/>
The <name ref="vsl:enterprise" type="vessel">Enterprize</name>, one of The <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName>'s Steamers, assisted
the '<name ref="vsl:malacca" type="vessel">Malacca</name>' off the following day. Fortunately it was calm. Had
there been any wind the officers say the Ship would have bumped
herself to pieces. She has to go to <placeName ref="plc:san_francisco">San Francisco</placeName> to be docked. The
same Vessel received injuries in the same place—on The <placeName ref="plc:sand_heads">Sand Heads</placeName>—in
<date when="1867-01-01">January last</date> on her passage to <placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName> when she struck twice.
<milestone unit="section" rend=".ind off"/>
</p><fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">12.</fw><pb facs="co_60_31/co_60_31_00243v.jpg"/>
<p>
12. To these recent accidents to the "<name ref="vsl:malacca" type="vessel">Malacca</name>" have to be added
an accident which befel Her Majesty's Ship "<name ref="vsl:tribune" type="vessel">Tribune</name>" on the same
dangerous <placeName ref="plc:sand_heads">Sand Heads</placeName> on a voyage from <placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName> by which she
was so seriously injured that she had to be broken up on her return
to England.
</p>
<p>
13. These facts demonstrate the unsuitability of the Site of
<placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName> for either a Commerical or Political Capital, since
even large and full handed Steam Vessels can neither approach nor
leave that place without incurring the risks of the gravest
casualties and of probable destruction; and, since Sailing Vessels
cannot be expected to incur such risks, as no insurance would cover
such palpable and notorious hazards.
</p>
<p>
Begging to be excused for troubling Your Grace with this letter
and for its length,
</p>
<closer>
I have the honor to remain, with respect,<lb/>
Your Grace's most obedient humble Servant<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:fraser_d">D. Fraser</persName><lb/>

<lb/>
</closer><closer><name type="addressee">The Right <choice><abbr>Hon<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">ble</hi></abbr><expan>Honourable</expan></choice> His Grace
<lb/>
The <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Duke of Buckingham &amp; Chandos</persName>
<lb/>
Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State
<lb/>
for the Colonies</name></closer>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName><lb/>
The <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Duke of Buckingham</persName> has the previous papers before him.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:cox_c">CC</persName>
<date when="1867-08-12">
12 Aug
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
I have the papers and annex a draft.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1867-08-13">
13/8
</date>
</signed>
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<ab><hi style="text-align: center; text-decoration: underline;">Seat of Government in <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B. Columbia</placeName> </hi>
We know that the Legislative Council have passed Resolutions for
placing the seat of Government at <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> in <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName>. But
although this has been known for some time, no report has come from
the Governor. May it not therefore be prudent to write a short
despatch to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Seymour</persName> saying that the Resolutions have been
 brought under the Duke's notice by<pb facs="co_60_31/co_60_31_00252v.jpg"/> private persons, but that His
Grace has declined adopting any conclusion until the arrival of the
report which he will doubtless shortly receive from <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Seymour</persName> on
the subject.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1867-08-13">
13 August
</date>
</signed>
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<div type="minute_entry"><pb facs="co_60_31/co_60_31_00252v.jpg"/>
<ab>
Is there any need to press for Report. Resolutions only came
through private persons &amp; do not require further notice immediately.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:adderley_cb">CBA</persName>
<date when="1867-08-14">
14/8
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
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<ab>
I think the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> be informed of the fact that the
 resolutions have been communicated by<pb facs="co_60_31/co_60_31_00253r.jpg"/> persons—as prima facie—it is
negligence on the part of the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> not to have communicated them
officially by same mail.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:grenville_r">B&amp;C</persName>
<date when="1867-08-14">
14/8
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:richards_gh">G.H. Richards</persName> to <persName ref="prs:fraser_d">Fraser</persName>, <date when="1867-07-25">25 July 1867</date>, expressing opinion that
<placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> should be made capital of the colony, with explanation.
</ab>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:richards_gh">Richards</persName> to <persName ref="prs:fraser_d">Fraser</persName>, <date when="1867-08-01">1 August 1867</date>, stating that he had no
objection to "any one knowing the opinion I entertain as regard to
where the Seat of <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice> should be in <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B.C.</placeName>"
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">Elliot</persName> to <persName ref="prs:fraser_d">Fraser</persName>, <date when="1867-08-13">13 August 1867</date>, advising that no decision
could be made until further report had been received from the
governor, and declining to see a deputation on the subject.
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<ab>
Approved by the duke. For Signature.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1867-08-13">
13/8
</date>
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<ab>
 Draft reply, <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Buckingham</persName> to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>, No. 49, <date when="1867-08-17">17 August 1867</date> notifying <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> that <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Buckingham</persName> has received notice of the “Resolutions … passed by the Legislative Council of <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>” and informing <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> that <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Buckingham</persName> is waiting for <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>’s report.
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