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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Despatch to London. 
                Minutes (3), Enclosures (untranscribed) (4), Other documents (1).</p>

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<persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> forwards <q>an Ordinance…entitled, No. 12. An Ordinance to appropriate the sum of three hundred and fifty eight thousand nine hundred and twenty three dollars and five cents out of the General Revenue of the Colony for the contingent service of the year <date when="1868">1868</date></q> and the attorney general’s report, including <q>a minute on the Estimates furnished by the Acting Colonial Secretary.</q> <persName ref="prs:cox_c">Cox</persName>’s minute discusses why <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>’s <q>Estimates of Expenditure</q> is late, describes the state of revenues and expenditures in <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName> based on the documents <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> forwarded, and suggests how to respond to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>’s ordinance and despatch. <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Buckingham</persName> minutes that the <orgName ref="org:colonial_office">Colonial Office</orgName> should <q>Proceed as proposed.</q> Included documents discuss the revenues and expenditures for <date when="1868">1868</date>. 
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Victoria
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No. 72
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<opener><ref type="co_ref">9913, CO 60/33, p. 47; received 9 September
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
Victoria
</addrLine>
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<date when="1868-07-28">28<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> July 1868</date>
<salute>My Lord Duke,</salute>
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<p>
I have the honor to forward an Authenticated and two plain
Copies of an Ordinance of the last session of the Legislature,<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">entitled,</fw><pb facs="co_60_33/co_60_33_00048v.jpg"/>
entitled,
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No. 12. An Ordinance to appropriate the sum of three hundred
and fifty eight thousand nine hundred and twenty three dollars
and five cents out of the General Revenue of the Colony for the
contingent service of the year <date when="1868">1868</date>.
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<p>
2. I enclose the Report of the Attorney General and also a
minute on the Estimates furnished by the Acting Colonial Secretary.
</p><fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">3. Your</fw><pb facs="co_60_33/co_60_33_00049r.jpg"/>
<p>
3. Your Grace will see from the latter paper that I am making
every effort to reduce the public expenditure.
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I have the honor to be,<lb/>
My Lord Duke,<lb/>
Your Grace's most obedient,<lb/>
humble Servant.<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Frederick Seymour</persName>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot<lb/></persName>
September is rather late to deal with Estimates of Expenditure
for the current year.
</ab>
<p>
They were not introduced into the Council till April—&amp;
the Appropriation Ordinance was passed on the <date when="1868-05-01">1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> May</date>.
</p>
<p>
The peculiar Financial condition of the Colony &amp; <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Governor
Seymour</persName>'s expectation probably of hearing some decision in
regard to his appeal for a Loan of £50,000 from the Imperial
Treasury may, however be taken as a sufficient excuse for the
late introduction of the Estimates. But I do not see why<pb facs="co_60_33/co_60_33_00050v.jpg"/>
it was to take him 3 months nearly before sending them home—&amp;
then without a word of comment or Financial information—nor why
it was to take the Colonial Secretary an equally long time to
prepare the meagre Report on the Estimates he has made.
</p>
<p>
The Estimates are satisfactory to the extent that the Estimated
Expenditure is brought within the Estimated Revenue.
</p>
<p>
The Estimated Revenue is $576,000—being more than the actual
Receipts for <date when="1867">1867</date> namely $475,250—tho' less than the Revenue
estimated for that year namely $675,350. The Colonial <choice><abbr>Se<choice><abbr>c<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></abbr><expan>company</expan></choice></abbr><expan>Secretary</expan></choice>
explains on what grounds this increase over <date when="1867">1867</date> is warranted, &amp;
states the Customs Duties for the 1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> Quarter of this year
 exceeded by $47,407 the receipts<pb facs="co_60_33/co_60_33_00051r.jpg"/> of the same Quarter of last year.
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<p>
The Estimated Expenditure is $572,353—that for <date when="1867">1867</date> having been
$701,711—the actual Expenditure is not given—the chief cause
of reduction being that there is only $70,000 in the place of
$170,000 for repayment of temporary Loans, &amp; it is satisfactory
to find from the Colonial Secretary that "a greater portion of
the Loan by Debentures paid under <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Exchequer</orgName> Debenture
Ordinance of 1867 &amp; which do not fall due until 1869-1870" has
been paid off, &amp; "a portion of the temporary Loan paid off absolutely."
</p>
<p>
There have been reductions of Offices, but what is not shewn.
</p>
<p>
In fact there are Returns which ought to accompany Estimates &amp;
other information wanting to shew a really correct view of the<pb facs="co_60_33/co_60_33_00051v.jpg"/>
Finances—no return of Assets &amp; Liabilities so that it does not
appear whether the various <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice> Officers have been paid their
arrears of Salary for <date when="1867">1867</date>. The Returns called for by His
Grace's despatch of the <date when="1868-04-10">10<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> April</date> (T<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi> 3274) tho'
promised on the <date when="1868-06-08">8 June</date> (7429) by the next Mail have not been
<choice><abbr>rec<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi>.</abbr><expan>received</expan></choice>
</p>
<p>
Under these circumstances I think the Estimates should be sent
to <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName> with a recommendation that they should be
sanctioned, adding that in consequence of the incomplete state
in which they have been sent home, the <persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Duke of Buckingham</persName>
proposes to address to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f"><choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> Seymour</persName> similar instructions to
those he proposes to address to <persName ref="prs:ord_h">Sir H. Ord</persName> (see printed draft) &amp;
which are now before their Lordships for consideration.
</p>
<p>
As a new Colonial Sec is to be sent out it <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> be well if he
were there before the next Estimates are introduced, tho' I am
afraid it will not be easy to find a good man [remainder cut off
microfilm].
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:cox_c">CC</persName>
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<signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
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<signed><persName ref="prs:adderley_cb">CBA</persName>
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<persName ref="prs:grenville_r">Duke of Buckingham</persName><lb/>
[Minute cut off microfilm]
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:robinson_w">WR</persName>
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<ab>
Proceed as proposed.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:grenville_r">B&amp;C</persName>
<date when="1868-10-07">
7/10
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Three printed copies of ordinance not on microfilm.
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:crease">H.P.P. Crease</persName>, Attorney General, to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>, <date when="1868-05-14">14 May 1868</date>,
reporting on the ordinance as per despatch.
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:young_wag">W.A.G. Young</persName>, Colonial Secretary, to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>, <date when="1868-07-23">23 July 1868</date>,
reporting on the estimates of revenue and expenditure for <date when="1868">1868</date>.
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<ab>
Printed copy of "Colonial Estimates, <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">British Columbia</placeName>,
<placeName ref="plc:new_westminster">New Westminster</placeName>: Government Printing Office, <date when="1868">1868</date>."
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<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers</persName> to Secretary to <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName>, <date when="1868-10-15">15 October 1868</date>, forwarding copy of the
despatch and ordinance for consideration, and
noting that instructions would be sent to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> regarding the
proper preparation of financial returns.
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