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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Despatch to London. 
                Minutes (4), Other documents (1).</p>

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<persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> forwards <q>Ordinance No. 31 of <date when="1867">1867</date>, entitled, An Ordinance respecting Practitioners in Medicine and Surgery.</q> <persName ref="prs:holland_ht">Holland</persName>’s minute discusses <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>’s proposed ordinance and recommends changes to the ordinance as some sections do not correspond to laws in England.
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Victoria
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No. 132
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<opener><ref type="co_ref">804, CO 60/33, p. 651; received 25 January 1869
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Victoria
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<date when="1868-12-12">12<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> December 1868</date>
<salute>My Lord Duke,</salute>
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<p>
I have had the honor to receive Your Grace's Circular despatch
of the <date when="1868-09-09">9<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> September</date>, forwarding a copy of the 31<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> of
<placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName><fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Chapter</fw><pb facs="co_60_33/co_60_33_00651v.jpg"/> Chapter 29, relating to Medical Practitioners in the
Colonies. Your Grace directs me to take such steps as may be
necessary to bring our local legislation into conformity therewith.
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2. I have the honor to forward a copy of our Ordinance No. 31
of <date when="1867">1867</date>, entitled,
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An Ordinance respecting Practitioners in Medicine and Surgery.
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from which<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Your</fw><pb facs="co_60_33/co_60_33_00652r.jpg"/> Your Grace will perceive that our proposed
Legislation is not at variance with the views of the Imperial
Government.
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3. Probably the provisions of the 31 <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Vic</placeName>: c. XXIX will have
removed the objection to our Ordinance specified in Your Grace's
despatch No. 5 of <date when="1868-01-29">29<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> of January 1868</date>.
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I have the honor to be,<lb/>
My Lord Duke,<lb/>
Your Grace's most obedient<lb/>
humble Servant<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Frederick Seymour</persName>
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<persName ref="prs:holland_ht">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Holland<lb/></persName>
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:cox_c">CC</persName>
<date when="1869-01-25">
25/1
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<ab><hi style="text-decoration: underline;"><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName></hi><lb/>
The <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B Columbia</placeName> Ordinance of <date when="1867">1867</date> was ultra vires, as being
contrary to the provisions of the Imperial Medical Act.
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<p>
An Act was passed last Session 31 <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Vict</placeName> c. 29 altering the
Medical Act, &amp; providing (sec 3) that any person duly registered
under the Medical Act should be entitled to be registered in any
Colony on payment of fees &amp; proof of registration.
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<p>
The Governor considers that no further change in the Col. Law is
now necessary, but I dissent from his view.
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<p>
By the 4<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> section of the Ordinance, a compulsory course of
study of not less than three years imposed by the College or
School that grants the Diploma is made a condition precedent to
registering such Diploma under the Ordinance.
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<p>
I am not aware whether in England such a term of study is
absolutely required, but if it is so now, it may not be
hereafter, and in such case the person who has been registered
under the Medical Act would not be enabled to register in the
Colony as he is entitled to do by the Imperial Act.
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<p>
I think this should be pointed out to the Governor, &amp; that he
should be informed that<pb facs="co_60_33/co_60_33_00653v.jpg"/> in His Lordships opinion the Ordinance
requires amendment &amp; that probably it will be the best plan to
repeal the Ordinance of <date when="1867">1867</date> which it was beyond the power of a
Col. Legislature to pass in <date when="1867">1867</date> and to re-enact it, taking care
however to provide that any person who has been duly registered
under "The Medical Act" shall be entitled to be registered in
the Colony upon payment of the fees required for such
registration &amp; upon proof, in such a manner as shall be
thought desirable, of his Registration under the said Act.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:holland_ht">HTH</persName>
<date when="1869-01-26">
26/1/69
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Draft at once. Yes.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
<date when="1869-01-26">
26/1
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I <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> let them do it in their own way (as I <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> let a
pig go over a stile in his own way) &amp; for the same reason merely
pointing out that they have no right to insert the 3 years
qualification &amp; must amend it.
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 Draft reply, <persName ref="prs:leveson_g">Granville</persName> to <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName>, No. 7, <date when="1869-02-01">1 February 1869</date> requiring <persName ref="prs:seymour_f">Seymour</persName> to make amendments to <q><q>An Ordinance respecting Practioners in Medicine and Surgery</q></q> and discussing the amendments needed to be made to the ordinance.
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