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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Despatch to London. 
                Minutes (5), Enclosures (untranscribed) (1), Other documents (1).</p>


<p><persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName> writes to <persName ref="prs:newcastle">Newcastle</persName>, on behalf of the <q><persName ref="prs:sangster_j">Collector of Her Majestys Customs</persName></q> at <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName>, to request books, forms, and an official seal <q>for public documents.</q> <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName> acknowledges that it is unusual to contact <persName ref="prs:newcastle">Newcastle</persName> for <q>such Requisitions,</q> and states the reasons for so doing.</p>
<p> The lengthy minutes discuss whether the costs for <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName>'s <q>Requisitions</q> should be paid by the government or the <orgName ref="org:hbc">HBC</orgName>; <persName ref="prs:peel_f">Peel</persName> then concludes tentatively that the <orgName ref="org:hbc">HBC</orgName> should <q>defray the cost.</q></p>
<p> The first of the two enclosures is a draft letter from <persName ref="prs:peel_f">Peel</persName> to <persName ref="prs:colvile_a">Colvile</persName>, which states that the costs for <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName>'s request should be paid by the <orgName ref="org:hbc">HBC</orgName>; the second is a letter from <persName ref="prs:sangster_j">Sangster</persName> to <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName>, which requests stationery supplies.</p>
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Victoria Vancouver's Island
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No. 3
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<opener><ref type="co_ref">3207, CO 305/5, p. 20; received 15 April
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<address><addrLine>
<placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName>
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<date when="1854-01-30">30<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> January 1854</date>
My Lord Duke
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<p>
I have the honor to enclose herewith a Requisition, for
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Books</hi> and <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Printed Forms</hi>, and an <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Official Seal</hi>, for public
documents, from the Collector of Her Majestys Customs for the Port of
<placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName>.
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<p>
It is perhaps not perfectly regular to trouble Your Grace, with
such Requisitions; the Commissioners of Her Majesty's Customs being in
such cases I believe the authorities, who ought to be addressed, but I
thought it expedient to transmit the present Requisition, through your
Grace, for the reason,<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">that</fw><pb facs="co_305_05/co_305_05_00021v.jpg"/> 
that the Collector of this Port, was appointed by
me to the office, he now holds, pending Her Majesty's approval, which I
have not received, and I therefore thought it probable that the
Commissioners of Her Majesty's Customs, might not attend to the
application, unless it were sanctioned, by your Graces recommendation.
</p>
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I have the honor to be
<lb/>
Your Grace's most obdt Servt.
<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:douglas_j">James Douglas</persName>
<lb/>
Governor <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName>
<lb/>

<lb/>
</closer><closer><name type="addressee">His Grace The Right <choice><abbr>Hon<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">ble</hi></abbr><expan>Honourable</expan></choice> <persName ref="prs:newcastle">The Duke of Newcastle</persName>
<lb/>
Her Majesty's principal Secretary of State
<lb/>
For the Colonial Depart<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">mt</hi></name></closer>
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<persName ref="prs:merivale_h">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Merivale</persName><lb/>
The Governor is, I think, in error in supposing that these Requisitions
ought properly to be sent to the Commiss<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rs</hi> of Customs. The
appointment of a Collector of Customs at <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Van Couvers Island</placeName> was
sanctioned by the Secretary of State as a matter of form (see Desp. N
2. <date when="1853-02-10">10 Feby 53</date>) but he is not an Imperial Officer,<pb facs="co_305_05/co_305_05_00022r.jpg"/> 
and <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">all</hi> expenses
connected with the Settlement are defrayed by the <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName>.
It is therefore to the Company that the Requisitions should be sent?
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:jadis_v">VJ</persName>
<date when="1854-04-15">
15 April
</date>
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<persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Blackwood</persName><lb/>
I am not quite sure how this stands. The Company are I think bound to
save Government harmless from all expense at <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vanc. I<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></placeName><pb facs="co_305_05/co_305_05_00022v.jpg"/> 
but I suppose
the customs duties (whenever any are raised) will be received on behalf
of the Crown &amp; not the Company, &amp; that expenses of this kind will be a
preliminary charge on the receipts?
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:merivale_h">HM</persName>
<date when="1854-04-21">
Apl 21
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
1. It is my impression that the Company is entitled to remunerate<lb/>
itself only out of its profits on the sale of Land and Coal, &amp; other
minerals, &amp; cannot lay claim to Customs duties, when levied. If so
these duties belong to the Crown, by whom the expense of this
requisition ought to be defrayed. Therefore I should say this <choice><abbr>desp<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>despatch</expan></choice>
<choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> be sent to <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName>.
</ab>
<p>
2. It seems that on the <date when="1854-01-30">30 Jan<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi>/54</date>, the Governor had not
<choice><abbr>rec<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>received</expan></choice> <persName ref="prs:newcastle">the Duke of Newcastle</persName>'s <choice><abbr>desp<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>despatch</expan></choice> of the <date when="1854-02-10">10 Feb<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi>/53</date>. Send
him therefore a duplicate—or rather a triplicate as we do send
duplicate Desp<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">hs</hi> to <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">VanCouver's Island</placeName>.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1854-04-21">
21 April
</date>
</signed>
<signed><persName ref="prs:merivale_h">HM</persName>
<date when="1854-04-21">
21 April
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
I should say that the Company ought to defray the cost of this<lb/>
requisition. It is to be remembered that there are no Customs dues at
<placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName>, and that the Collector of Customs will have no duty
but that of granting clearance to vessels &amp;c. See <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Douglas</persName>' desp.
933/53 last par. To the Company therefore I think.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:peel_f">FP</persName>
<date when="1854-04-25">
25
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
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<ab>
I think so, but it is not very clear.<lb/>
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:newcastle">N</persName>

<date when="1854-04-25">
25
</date>
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Draft, <persName ref="prs:peel_f">Peel</persName> to <persName ref="prs:colvile_a">A. Colvile</persName>, <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName>, <date when="1854-05-03">3 May 1854</date>,
forwarding copy of despatch and enclosure and replying that "it rests
with the Company and not with H.M.'s Government to comply with a demand
of this nature."
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<ab>
Requisition for stationery supplies, no date, submitted to <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName>
by <persName ref="prs:sangster_j">James Sangster</persName>, Collector of Customs.
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