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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Public Offices document. 
                Minutes (6), Enclosures (untranscribed) (3).</p>
<p style="font-style: italic;">This document contains mentions of Indigenous Peoples. The authors of these documents often perpetuate a negative perspective of Indigenous Peoples and it is important to look critically at these mentions. They sometimes use terminology that is now considered hurtful and offensive.  To learn more about modern terminology pertaining to Indigenous Peoples, Indigenous ways of knowing, and decolonization, please refer to the <ref target="cdc:glossaryIP">Glossary of terms</ref>.</p>

<p><persName ref="prs:colvile_a">Colvile</persName> writes to <persName ref="prs:russell_j">Russell</persName> to provide a plenary report on the <orgName ref="org:hbc">HBC</orgName>’s <q>colonization of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">that Island</placeName>,</q> which includes details on total land sales, number of settlers, revenues, and more. Finally, <persName ref="prs:colvile_a">Colvile</persName> asks for adjustments to land-payment terms.</p>
<p>The extensive minutes debate matters related to <persName ref="prs:ball">Ball</persName>’s salient question of whether or not <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName> should <q>continue in the hands of the Company or be treated as a Colonial dependency of the Crown.</q></p>
<p>The first of the three documents included in the file is entitled <q>List of Persons holding 20 acres of Land and upwards in <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName>;</q> the second is entitled <q>List of Persons holding Town lots […] at <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> […];</q> and the third is entitled <q>Statement of payments applied to the Colonization and improvement of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName> […].</q></p>
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<head>
<persName ref="prs:colvile_a">Colvile</persName> to <persName ref="prs:russell_j">Russell</persName>
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">5599, CO 305/6, p. 255; received 11 June
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
Hudson's Bay House
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1855-06-09">9<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> June 1855</date>
<salute>My Lord</salute>
</opener>
<p>
On the <date when="1852-11-24">24<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> November 1852</date> I submitted to the Right <choice><abbr>Hon<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">ble</hi></abbr><expan>Honourable</expan></choice> <persName ref="prs:pakington">Sir
John Pakington</persName>, then Secretary of State for the Colonies, a Report on
the transactions of the <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName> in relation to <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's
Island</placeName>, from the date of the Grant thereof until the <date when="1852-04-27">27<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> April 1852</date>,
and I have now the honor to submit to your Lordship the following Report
on the further proceedings of the Company in reference to the
colonization of that Island.
</p>
<p>
On comparing this Report with the former, I trust that it will
appear to your Lordship that the efforts of the Company have been
tolerably successful, considering the peculiar difficulties which they
have had to<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">contend</fw><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00257v.jpg"/> contend with, such as the great distance of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName> from
this country, and consequent length of the voyage, the high rate of
wages given in the Gold districts of California, which unsettles the
minds of the labouring population, the system of free grants of land
that prevails on the opposite shore of the <placeName ref="plc:juan_de_fuca_strait">Straits of De Fuca</placeName>, and the
distance from any market, except those on American territory, where the
Import duties are almost prohibitory.
</p>
<p>
I have much pleasure in stating that the appearances of Coal that
were discovered by parties in the employment of the <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudsons Bay Company</orgName>
at <placeName ref="plc:nanaimo">Nanaimo</placeName>, of which mention was made in my previous Report, were not
fallacious. From the information received from <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>, I have
little doubt that a valuable and extensive Coal field exists in that
locality. The Company have caused pits to be sunk, and have sent out
and erected<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00258r.jpg"/> Steam Engines and other machinery for working the Coal, and
the amount expended in these operations, including the price of the
land, now exceeds 25,000.
</p>
<p>
With reference to this important undertaking, your Lordship will
observe in the accompanying Statement of the land disposed of that this
Company appear as the purchasers of a tract containing about 6200 acres
at the stipulated price of 1 per acre.
</p>
<p>
It has been considered very desirable to develop the mineral
properties of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>, particularly that of Coal, as an article of
export which would meet with a steady and extensive market. But no
Settler has yet appeared who was willing, or possessed of sufficient
capital to engage in such an undertaking, and this has induced the
Governor and Committee to purchase the above mentioned tract of land for
the <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName>, and to establish the Coal works, which they
trust will tend to encourage the<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00258v.jpg"/> colonization of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>, and at the
same time be remunerative to the Company.
</p>
<p>
It is hoped that their example may operate as a stimulus to others
to work the minerals on the lands acquired by them, and thus add
materially to the general prosperity of the Colony. In connection with
the workings undertaken by the Company, eighty miners, with their
families, have already been sent from this country, of whom upwards of
sixty are now fully employed.
</p>
<p>
The Pugets Sound Agricultural Company have purchased and paid for
2574 acres of land, &amp; established four farms, on which the necessary
buildings have been erected, and their outlay in these operations, and
in bringing Cattle and Sheep from their farms in the <placeName ref="plc:oregon_territory">Oregon territory</placeName>,
amounts to about 17,000.
</p>
<p>
The general result of the Company's operations stands as follows
</p>
<p>
1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi>
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Quantity of Land sold.</hi>
</p>
<p>
Since the date of the<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00259r.jpg"/> last return there have been sold 11455
acres of land, at the fixed price of 20/- per acre.
</p>
<p>
2<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">nd</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">The number of Settlers</hi>.
</p>
<p>
A list is appended hereto of the purchasers of 20 acres of land, &amp;
upwards, the number of whom amounts to forty three, and a return is
added of purchasers of Town and Suburban lots, the majority of whom have
erected houses thereon, varying in value from 50 to 1000 each. Many
of these Settlers have been Officers &amp; Clerks in the service of the
<orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName>, and some of them are still in the employment of
the Company.
</p>
<p>
3<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rd</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">The number of Emigrants</hi>
</p>
<p>
In addition to the 435 Emigrants reported in my previous letter,
the following have been sent out by the <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName>
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<lb/>
" 1853 87 41 87
<lb/>
" 1854 <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">45 38 45</hi>
<lb/>
Total 146 80 136
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making with those of previous years a total of 797.
</p>
<p>
<persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Governor Douglas</persName> has been desired to transmit to England a Census<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00259v.jpg"/>
of the Colony, and such other statistical information as may be
interesting, and as soon as the Same are received I shall do myself the
honor of submitting them to your Lordship.
</p>
<p>
4<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Monies received for Sales of Land</hi>
</p>
<p>
The Amount received since <date when="1852-04-27">27<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> April 1852</date> up to <date when="1853-11-30">30<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> November
1853</date>, the date at which the last accounts in the Country are made up, is
<milestone unit="section" rend=".in +6 -0"/>
<lb/>
4770.12.8
<lb/>
Of which there falls to the Hudson's
<lb/>
Bay Company 1/10<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">477.1. 3</hi>
<lb/>
and the remainder 4293.11.5
<milestone unit="section" rend=".in -6 +0"/>
is held in trust for Colonization purposes.
</p>
<p>
This is exclusive of the purchase money of the Coal field by the
<orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName>, amounting to 6193, which, after deducting 10 per
cent, was credited to the Colonial Trust Fund on the <date when="1855-05-07">7<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> Ultimo</date>, the
extinguishment of <name type="ip" subtype="group">the Indian</name><!-- LILS Indian title is a concept not a group --> title having only been effected on the
<date when="1855-12-23">23<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rd</hi> December last</date>, and announced by the Mail of <date when="1855-03-30">30<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> March</date>.
</p>
<p>
5<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Monies received in respect of Coal and other Minerals</hi>.
</p>
<p>
There have been sold and exported by the <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00260r.jpg"/>
since <date when="1852-04-27">27<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> April 1852</date> up to <date when="1853-11-30">30<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> Novem<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> 1853</date>, 4062 9/10 Tons of
Coal, the Royalty on which, at 2/6 p ton, amounts to
<milestone unit="section" rend=".in +6 -0"/>
<lb/>
507.16.7
<lb/>
Of which there falls to the Hudsons
<lb/>
Bay Company 1/10<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;"> 50.15.7</hi>
<lb/>
and the remainder 457. 1.-
<milestone unit="section" rend=".in -6 +0"/>
is held in trust for Colonization purposes.
</p>
<p>
6<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Monies received in respect of Timber</hi>
</p>
<p>
There have been cut upon the public lands of the Colony, and
exported, 1075 loads of Timber, the Royalty on which, at 10 per load
amounts to 44.15.10
<milestone unit="section" rend=".in +6 -0"/>
<lb/>
Of which there falls to the Hudson's
<lb/>
Bay Company 1/10<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;"> 4. 9. 7</hi>
<lb/>
and the remainder 40. 6. 3
<milestone unit="section" rend=".in -6 +0"/>
is held in trust for Colonization purposes.
</p>
<p>
7<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Spirit Licences</hi>
</p>
<p>
The proceeds of the Spirit Licences received up to the <date when="1853-11-30">30<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi>
November 1853</date>, are <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">220</hi> which have also been carried to the credit
of the Trust Fund.
</p>
<p>
8<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Expences incurred for Colonization and Improvements.</hi>
</p>
<p>
Amount expended in the Colony from <date when="1852-04-27">27<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> April 1852</date> to <date when="1853-11-30">30<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00260v.jpg"/>
November 1853</date>, and in <placeName ref="plc:london">London</placeName> from <date when="1852-04-27">27<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> April 1852</date> up to <date when="1855-05-01">1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> May
1855</date>, <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">5614.9.-</hi>
</p>
<p>
9<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Surveys</hi>
</p>
<p>
Two hundred square miles of land have been surveyed, and laid out
into Districts by the Surveyor and his Assistants. To connect these a
high road of the proposed length of thirty miles is in progress of
construction, and several bridges have been built, one of which, across
the <placeName ref="plc:portage_inlet">Portage Inlet</placeName>, connecting the harbours of <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> and <placeName ref="plc:esquimalt_harbour">Esquimalt</placeName>, is
200 yards in length, and was erected at an expence of upwards of 1000.
</p>
<p>
10<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> <hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Churches and Schools</hi>
</p>
<p>
A church capable of containing 500 persons has been erected at
<placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName>, and the <persName ref="prs:cridge">Reverend Edward Cridge</persName>, a clergyman of the Church of
England, who was sent out by the Hudsons Bay<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">Company</fw><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00261r.jpg"/> Company in September, to
replace the <persName ref="prs:staines">Rev<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Staines</persName>, deceased, has been appointed thereto.
</p>
<p>
There are three Schools for boys and girls on <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>, conducted
by Schoolmasters and their wives, who, I believe, give satisfaction to
the inhabitants.
</p>
<p>
The <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName> have erected about 50 substantial houses
at <placeName ref="plc:nanaimo">Nanaimo</placeName> for the Colliers employed at the Coal Mines, and their
families; and it is proposed to send out, in the course of this year, a
clergyman to attend to the spiritual wants of these people. In the
meantime a School is successfully conducted there by <persName ref="prs:bayley">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Bayley</persName>, who was selected and sent out, as specially qualified for the duty, by the
<orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudsons Bay Company</orgName>.
</p>
<p>
Two Flour Mills and five Saw Mills are in operation, and it is to
be hoped that, with the help of the <orgName ref="org:psac">Puget Sound Agricultural Company</orgName>'s
farms, the Colony, at no distant time, may be self-supporting: at
present it has been found necessary to import a considerable quantity of
the Flour and<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">other</fw><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00261v.jpg"/> other provisions consumed on <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>.
</p>
<p>
The important subject of giving encouragement to respectable and
well conducted persons to settle permanently on <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>, has from
time to time engaged the anxious consideration of the Governor and
Committee of this Company, and, with a view of furthering this object,
it has been agreed to give to every agricultural labourer employed by
the Hudson's Bay and Puget Sound Companies the privilege of receiving a
free grant of from 25 to 50 acres of land after five years service,
these grants to be made from the land acquired by the Puget Sound
Agricultural Company and the Fur Trade reserve, and not from the public
lands of the Colony. This arrangement will no doubt operate
beneficially by inducing steady and industrious habits on the part of
this description of people, and ultimately ensure a succession of
valuable and well conducted Settlers on <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>.
</p>
<p>
The Governor &amp; Committee are of opinion, however, that with respect<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">to</fw><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00262r.jpg"/>
to such of those parties as may be desirous of increasing the extent of
their holdings, and to others whose eligibility can be satisfactorily
established, it would be desirable to modify the existing regulations
regarding the payment of the purchase money of land, by empowering the
Governor of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>, under certain restrictions, to receive such
payment by four annual instalments of 5<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">s</hi>/- each. This arrangement
would enable an industrious agricultural labourer to make progress with
a very small Capital, but which would be yearly increased by the profits
of his labour.
</p>
<p>
Reference has already been made to the system of free grants which
prevails in the American territory, and the Governor and Committee
apprehend that while that system continues in the immediate vicinity of
<placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName>, some liberal arrangement, such as that now
suggested, will be necessary to induce emigrants to adopt <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName> as
their home.
</p>
<p>
I am requested to state that it will be satisfactory to the
Committee if<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">your</fw><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00262v.jpg"/> your Lordship should concur in these views, in which case they will transmit the necessary instructions to <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Governor Douglas</persName> for carrying them into operation without delay.
</p>
<p>
Referring to the copy of the account forwarded herewith, which your
Lordship will at once perceive merely contains a statement of the
payments made on account of the <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName> Trust Fund, and has
no reference to the large expenditure by the <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName> in and
upon <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>.
</p>
<closer>
I have the honor to be, My Lord
<lb/>
Your Lordship's obedient humble Servant
<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:colvile_a">A. Colvile</persName>
<lb/>
Governor
<lb/>

<lb/>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:merivale_h">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Merivale</persName><lb/>
This will, I presume, be ack<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> but with any particular observation?
</ab>
<p>
I perceive that a previous similar report to this was laid before
the Ho: of Commons in pursuance of an Address. Might it not be
advisable to follow the same course with this report, for in the Ho: of
Commons &amp; elsewhere the want of information as to the proceedings of
this C<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">o</hi> over this Depend<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi> has<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00263r.jpg"/> a prejudicial effect and is
complained of.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="18550-06-11">
11 June
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
</div>

<div type="minute_entry">
<ab>
<persName ref="prs:ball">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Ball</persName><lb/>
Parl<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi>. And Copy also to the Land Board for information.
</ab>
<p>
If this report be an accurate one, &amp; I know no reason to doubt, the
Company's operations though not eminently successful have not been
nugatory, &amp; they can hardly be said not to have fulfilled the condition
of their grant, viz, "to establish a settlement according to the intent
of the Grant." If they have performed this condition, then Government
cannot resume the grant, if it wished to do so, before <date when="1859">1859</date>, and then
only "on payment to the Company of sums theretofore laid out by them"
&amp;c, whatever that clause may be held to mean. It should seem however
that the expenses of the settlement have hitherto been pretty nearly
defrayed out of the "Trust Fund," being chiefly money invested by the
Company itself in the purchase of land.
</p>
<p>
I think the relaxation asked for in<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00263v.jpg"/> the terms of the sale of land
may be at once accorded: indeed I do not know that government have to
interfere in the matter: the grant only requires sale at a "reasonable
price."
</p>
<p>
The question of the future government of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vanc. I<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></placeName>—by Assembly
or otherwise—still remains open.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:merivale_h">HM</persName>
<date when="1855-06-25">
June 25
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
</div>

<div type="minute_entry"><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00264r.jpg"/>
<ab>
<persName ref="prs:molesworth">Sir William Molesworth</persName><lb/>
In the pressure of business during the Session it was not possible to
obtain time for a full consideration of the important and somewhat
difficult questions which await decision.
</ab>
<p>
On the <date when="1854-01-13">13<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> Jan<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi> 1854</date> the period of 5 years from the date of
the Grant expired &amp; it is within the power of the Crown, on the Report
of such person as may be appointed to inquire into the condition of the
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Island to the effect that a settlement has not been established
according to the intention of the Grant or that provisions as to sale of
land have not been fulfilled to revoke the grant &amp;<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00264v.jpg"/> resume possession.
</p>
<p>
If the resumption be postponed till <date when="1859">1859</date> the Hudson's Bay <choice><abbr>C<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></abbr><expan>Company</expan></choice>
will be entitled to claim repayment of all their outlay—indeed,
according to literal construction, both for the outlay &amp; the value of
establishments created thereby e.g. 500 for Governor's House &amp; the
value of the House at the time of resumption. But it may be presumed
that such a construction could not be seriously maintained. If resumed
before that date the Crown <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> not be bound to make any repayment but
of course this <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> be a matter for equitable adjustment. I dare say
that a large sum <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> be claimed. My impression [is] that little<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00265r.jpg"/> would
be properly payable to the <choice><abbr>C<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi>.</abbr><expan>Company</expan></choice>
</p>
<p>
The two letters of the Company 3578 &amp; 5599 raise questions for your
decision which are closely connected with the consideration of the
general policy to be pursued in regard to this Island. To treat the
forty three persons holding 20 acres of land &amp; upwards as a constituency
competent to elect a General Assembly would irrespective of other
Consequences amount to a waiver of all legal right to revoke the grant.
For where there is a General Assembly there clearly must be a
settlement.
</p>
<p>
I confess that I think<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00265v.jpg"/> the establishment of [a] representative
System under the circumstances of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName> <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> be little better than
a parody, especially if it be true as sometimes asserted that very
nearly the whole of the occupiers are Servants of the <choice><abbr>C<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></abbr><expan>Company</expan></choice> living on
its pay, in addition to a few in the service of the <orgName ref="org:psac">Puget Sound Company</orgName>.
</p>
<p>
The first report of the proceedings of the H.B.<choice><abbr>C<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></abbr><expan>Company</expan></choice> is dated <date when="1852-11-24">24
Nov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> 1852</date>. It is seen by reference to the annexed account that
though the Comp<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi> claim to have expended 1986-4-9 no part of that sum
had been expended in <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName> except about 750 for salaries, while
they admit having received<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00266r.jpg"/> 1642-17-6 for Land Sales &amp; Royalties on Coal
of which as entitled to do they retained 1/10<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> as profit.
</p>
<p>
The last Report 5599 deserves your closer attention. It is stated
that over 11000 acres of land have been sold but of this quantity 6200
acres includes the Coal district which the <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName> have
purchased (<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">from themselves</hi>) at the upset price of 1 an acre. I
cannot think that such a purchase is within the true meaning &amp; intent of
the Grant but it seems to me pretty clear that<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00266v.jpg"/> the Company has thought
it expedient to secure itself against any possible loss.
</p>
<p>
The annexed account shows an outlay of 5614 for Colonisation
purposes but a paragraph in the despatch says that this "has no
reference to the large expenditure of the Hudson's B. <choice><abbr>C<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi></abbr><expan>Company</expan></choice> in &amp; upon
<placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>" which I presume to refer to expend<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">re</hi> for their trade in
Furs &amp; Coal.
</p>
<p>
The substantial questions now arising for decision are however
independent of the precise proceedings of the Comp<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi>. We have to
consider whether it is on<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00267r.jpg"/> the whole for the benefit of this country &amp;
for that of H.M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">s</hi> subjects on the N.W. Coast of America that this
territory <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> continue in the hands of the Company or be treated as a
Colonial dependency of the Crown.
</p>
<p>
Under the first alternative the responsibility of the Home <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice>
is diminished, the prospect of Collision with <name type="ip" subtype="group">the Indians</name> is perhaps
less [and] the development of the resources of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName> will probably
be retarded.
</p>
<p>
It is difficult to say whether the more serious risk of collision
with the American population of <placeName ref="plc:oregon_territory">Oregon</placeName> is greater or less than it <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice>
be if <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName> were resumed from the <choice><abbr>C<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi>.</abbr><expan>Company</expan></choice> Recent despatches show
that there are inflammable<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00267v.jpg"/> Materials on both sides especially the
American. In my opinion the only real strength for such a community is
to be sought in increasing population &amp; if <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName> were resumed I
<choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> think it wise to give small lots—of 5 or 10 acres to a
reasonable number of actual occupants at a mere nominal price—resumable
if not brought fully into cultivation. Maintaining the present price
for all larger sales.
</p>
<p>
If on full consideration you Should think it desirable to prepare
for the revocation of the grant the next question <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> be whether you
would arrange the matter by negotiation here or in the first place send
some competent &amp; independent inquirer to report on the state of affairs
in <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName>.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:ball">JB</persName>
<date when="1855-08-03">
3 Aug
</date>
</signed></closer>
</div>
<div type="minute_entry"><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00268r.jpg"/>
<ab>
I think that <persName ref="prs:molesworth">Sir W. Molesworth</persName> had not considered the circumstance<lb/>
that a sort of overture for the cession of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">the Island</placeName> has recently been
made by an influential member of the H.B. Comp<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi> &amp; that it may be
more easy to come to terms now than hereafter.
</ab>
<p>
I had some conversation<pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00268v.jpg"/> with him on the subject after he had
commenced this unfinished minute.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:ball">JB</persName>
<date when="1855-10-26">
26 Oct
</date>
</signed>

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<signed><name><hi style="text-align: center;">[<persName ref="prs:molesworth">Molesworth</persName>'s Minute, unfinished]</hi></name>
</signed>
</closer>
</div>
<div type="minute_entry"><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00269r.jpg"/>
<ab>
1. Would an enquiry enable the Crown to revoke the grant of<lb/>
<placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's island</placeName> to the Hudson's bay Company? I think not. I agree
with <persName ref="prs:merivale_h">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Merivale</persName> that if this report be an accurate one, and I see no
reason to doubt its accuracy, that it would be difficult to certify
"that a settlement had not been established according to the intent of
the grant &amp;c."
</ab>
<p>
2. I think that there ought to be some legislative authority in
<placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName>. The question is whether we ought to apply to
Parliament to create such an authority, or whether the powers which
exist for that purpose should be employed and a legislative assembly at
once summoned. If the former alternative be adopted, what form of
legislation ought we to ask for, and what form would Parliament grant?
I should be unwilling to ask for and I think Parliament would be
unwilling to establish a purely nominated council. A council half
nominated &amp; half elected might be obtained, but to such a council the
objections on the score of the smallness of the electoral body, if
valid, would apply with almost as much force as to a completely elective
council.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:molesworth">[WM]</persName>
</signed>
</closer>
</div>

<div type="minute_entry">
<ab>
See Minutes on Gov 8991/55.<lb/>
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</ab>
</div>
</div>
<div type="enclosure_list">
<div type="enclosure_entry"><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00270r.jpg"/>
<ab>
1. "List of Persons holding 20 acres of Land and upwards in
<placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName>" (43 names).
</ab>
</div>
<div type="enclosure_entry"><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00271r.jpg"/>
<ab>
2. "List of Persons holding Town lots, having houses built upon
them of value 50 and upwards, at <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName>, not included in
the foregoing List" (23 names).
</ab>
</div>
<div type="enclosure_entry"><pb facs="co_305_06/co_305_06_00272r.jpg"/>
<ab>
3. "Statement of payments applied to the Colonization and
improvement of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName> from <date when="1852-10-31">31<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> October 1852</date> (the date of
Statement last rendered) to the <date when="1855-11-30">30<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> November 1853</date> at <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's
Island</placeName>, and in <placeName ref="plc:london">London</placeName> to the <date when="1855-05-01">1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> May 1855</date>," dated <date when="1855-05">May 1855</date>, signed by
<persName ref="prs:roberts_e">Edward Roberts</persName>, Accountant, Hudson's Bay House, <placeName ref="plc:london">London</placeName>.
</ab>
</div>
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