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                Minutes (3), Other documents (1).</p>

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Admiralty
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<persName ref="prs:romaine_wg">Romaine</persName> to <persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers</persName> (Permanent Under-Secretary)
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<opener><ref type="co_ref">10098, CO 305/15, p. 81; received 23 October
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<date when="1860-10-22">22 October 1860</date>
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I am commanded by my <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty</orgName> to acquaint
you for the information of the Secretary of State for the Colonies
that the term of Service Abroad of the Detachment of Royal Marines
who have been at <placeName ref="plc:san_juan_island">San Juan</placeName> since <date when="1860-03">March 1860</date> has now expired—the bulk
of the Men having embarked for Service in China in <date when="1857-08">August 1857</date>—and
my Lords being about to recall them to this country, hope that
immediate steps may be taken to have <fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">the</fw><pb facs="co_305_15/co_305_15_00082v.jpg"/>the duties otherwise provided
for.
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The Detachment consists of 4 officers and 83 Non Commissioned
Officers &amp; Privates.
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I am etc.
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<persName ref="prs:romaine_wg">W.G. Romaine</persName>
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<ab><hi style="text-decoration: underline;"><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName></hi><lb/>
This is a matter on which I think it may be necessary to take the
directions of the <persName ref="prs:newcastle">Duke of Newcastle</persName>, to obtain a little more
information from the <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> than is afforded in this letter, and
perhaps to communicate with the <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">Foreign Office</orgName>.
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<p>
These Marines were sent from China to <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B. Columbia</placeName> shortly after the
establishment of that place as a Colony, when the naval force
stationed there was inadequate for its protection and, I think,
before the Royal Engineers had [one word off file] the Colony.
I do not believe that
after all they were employed on shore, or at any rate that their land
Service was of any duration, and that ultimately they were
distributed amongst the Squadron. Since that period the <placeName ref="plc:san_juan_island">San Juan</placeName>
difference arose, and the The <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">Foreign Office</orgName>, on the part of H.M.
<choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice>, ordered the <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> to station 100 Marines on the Island,
the United States placing a corresponding Military force there. Of
this Order of <persName ref="prs:russell_j">Lord J. Russell</persName>'s the <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> are necessarily
cognizant. Whether or not the Admiral could have detached 100
Marines to <placeName ref="plc:san_juan_island">San Juan</placeName> if he had not had in hand the supernumerary
Marines from China I am unable to say as we are not acquainted at
this office with the strength of the Marines in the Squadron in the
N. Pacific. I only know that when, about this time last year, it was
proposed to diminish the Marines the <persName ref="prs:newcastle">Duke of Newcastle</persName> considered
the moment for doing so unopportune, and that the force has since
then been kept up at <pb facs="co_305_15/co_305_15_00084r.jpg"/>the full strength plus the men from China. It
now appears that the period of service for these Marines has expired
and that in ordinary course they must be relieved. The question
thence arises whether if they are sent home the Admiral on the Station
has Marines enough left to perform their duties on board of Ship,
and the service at <placeName ref="plc:san_juan_island">San Juan</placeName> also. On this point the Adm<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">ty</hi> should, I
think, be requested to afford some information. If the answer be
that the force is strong enough to fulfil both services I presume
that the Supernumeraries may be recalled, but if it be insufficient I
conceive that other Marines must be sent out to replace those who are
withdrawn. I am assuming that the <placeName ref="plc:san_juan_island">San Juan</placeName> difficulty has not made
that progress towards solution which <pb facs="co_305_15/co_305_15_00084v.jpg"/>would enable the two Governments
to withdraw their respective military detachments. It is on this
point that some communication with the <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">Foreign Office</orgName> may be requisite.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1860-10-22">
22 Oct/60
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<persName ref="prs:fortescue">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Fortescue</persName><lb/>
I suppose the first step is to ask the Admy the question proposed by
<persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Blackwood</persName>.
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And perhaps it m<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> be as well to ask the <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">F.O.</orgName> at the same time
whether there is any reason for hoping that it may shortly become
unnecessary to keep 100 marines at <placeName ref="plc:san_juan_island">San Juan</placeName>.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
<date when="1860-10-24">
24/10
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<ab>
This is mainly a <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">F.O.</orgName> affair, and I wd. send the letter to them &amp; ask
<persName ref="prs:russell_j">Ld. J.R</persName>'s. opinion.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:fortescue">CF</persName>
<date when="1860-10-26">
26
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Draft, <persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers</persName> to <persName ref="prs:hammond">E. Hammond</persName>, <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">Foreign Office</orgName>, <date when="1860-11-02">2 November 1860</date>, forwarding copy of the <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> letter for opinion.
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