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<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)</persName>
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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Public Offices document. 
                Minutes (3), Other documents (2).</p>

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<persName ref="prs:peel_f">Peel</persName> writes <persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers</persName> on behalf of the <orgName ref="org:treasury">Treasury</orgName> to inform
<persName ref="prs:newcastle">Newcastle</persName> that <q>The Vancouver Island Road and Harbour Loan Act 1862</q> and <q>The Vancouver Island Temporary Debenture Loan Act 1862</q>
have been approved. The <orgName ref="org:treasury">Treasury</orgName> expresses its discomfort with the <q>absence of any information of a recent date respecting the Financial
condition of the Colony</q> and warns that it will not be responsible for repayment of the loans should the colony default. <persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers</persName> minutes that
<q>these financial arrangements of Gov. <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName> appear to me rather alarming,</q> prompting <persName ref="prs:fortescue">Fortescue</persName> to comment
that <q>Douglas is, I think, a very unsatisfactory financier.</q>
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<persName ref="prs:peel_f"><surname>Peel</surname>,  <forename>Frederick</forename></persName>
<address><addrLine>
Treasury Chambers
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<date when="1862-12-04"/>
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<persName ref="prs:rogers_f"><surname>Rogers</surname>,  <forename>Frederic</forename></persName>
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<text><body><div type="public_offices">
<head>
<persName ref="prs:peel_f">Peel</persName> to <persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers</persName> (Permanent Under-Secretary)
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">11789, CO 305/19, p. 606; received 5 December
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
Treasury Chambers
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1862-12-04">4 December 1862</date>
</opener>
<p>
With reference to your letter of the <date when="1862-11-19">19 Ult</date>, enclosing two Acts of
the Legislature of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName> entitled, respectively,
<milestone unit="section" rend=".ind on"/>
"The <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName> Road and Harbour Loan Act <date when="1862">1862</date>"
<milestone unit="section" rend=".ind off"/>
and
<milestone unit="section" rend=".ind on"/>
"The <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName> Temporary Debenture Loan Act <date when="1862">1862</date>".
<milestone unit="section" rend=".ind off"/>
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<p>
I am directed by the <orgName ref="org:treasury">Lords Commissoners of Her Majesty's Treasury</orgName> to
acquaint you, for<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">the</fw><pb facs="co_305_19/co_305_19_00611v.jpg"/> the information of the <persName ref="prs:newcastle">Duke of Newcastle</persName>, that
Their Lordships will not object to the confirmation of the two Acts
in question, but they regret the absence of any information of a
recent date respecting the Financial condition of the Colony, as
without it, they can form no opinion as to the adequacy of the
security provided for payment of the Interest, and for the redemption
of the Loans.
</p>
<p>
With regard to the negociation<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">of</fw><pb facs="co_305_19/co_305_19_00612r.jpg"/> of the Loan by the Agents General for
Crown Colonies, and the signature by them, on behalf of the Colonial
Government of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName>, of the Debenture to be issued in this
Country, My Lords desire that there should be a distinct
understanding that, in their borrowing money for a Government which
possesses the control over its own general revenue without the
supervision of Her Majesty's Government, the Agents General<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">are</fw><pb facs="co_305_19/co_305_19_00612v.jpg"/> are
acting merely in the name of the Local Government, and that Her
Majesty's Government can come under no responsibility on account of
their transactions in that capacity, or otherwise, in connection with
the Loan.
</p>
<p>
My Lords are of opinion that the Agents General should be called upon
for a Report as to the mode in which the Government of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver
Island</placeName> should contribute towards the expenses of the Agency for<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">services</fw><pb facs="co_305_19/co_305_19_00613r.jpg"/>
services to be rendered in respect to the proposed Loan.
</p>
<closer>
I am, Sir<lb/>
Your obedient Servant<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:peel_f">F. Peel</persName>
<lb/>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName><lb/>
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:jadis_v">VJ</persName>
<date when="1862-12-05">
5 Dec<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:fortescue">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Fortescue</persName><lb/>
Confirm the Acts and refer to <persName ref="prs:julyan_pg">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Julyan</persName>.
</ab>
<p>
But I must say these financial arrangements of <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Gov. Douglas</persName> appear to
me rather alarming. The matter is one (loans for public works in <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B Columbia</placeName> and <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">V.C.I.</placeName>) to <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> you have given a good deal of attention.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
<date when="1862-12-06">
6/12
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:newcastle">Duke of Newcastle</persName><lb/>
<persName ref="prs:douglas_j"><choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> Douglas</persName> is, I think, a very unsatisfactory financier. But in V. I<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> these Loans are, at all counts, sanctioned by an elected
assembly—&amp; do not depend, as in <placeName ref="plc:british_columbia">B.C.</placeName>, on the Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r's</hi> single will.
I <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> confirm the Acts.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:fortescue">CF</persName>
<date when="1862-12-08">
8
</date>
</signed>
<signed><persName ref="prs:newcastle">N</persName>
<date when="1862-12-09">
9
</date>
</signed>
</closer>

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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers</persName> to Agents General, <date when="1862-12-18">18 December 1862</date>, forwarding copy of the
letter and acts and asking for their report "upon the mode in which
the Colony should provide for the expenses of the Agency with respect
to the loan."
</ab>
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<div type="other_entry"><pb facs="co_305_19/co_305_19_00616r.jpg"/>
<ab>
Draft reply, <persName ref="prs:newcastle">Newcastle</persName> to <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName>, No. 122, <date when="1862-12-18">18 December 1862</date>,
informing him that <q>The Vancouver Island Road and Harbour Loan Act 1862</q> and <q>The Vancouver Island Temporary Debenture Loan Act 1862</q> have been approved,
and forwarding the <orgName ref="org:treasury">Treasury</orgName>'s concerns.
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