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<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)</persName>
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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Public Offices document. 
                Minutes (3), Enclosures (untranscribed) (1), Other documents (1).</p>

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<persName ref="prs:murray_j">Murray</persName> to <persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers</persName> (Permanent Under-Secretary)
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<opener><ref type="co_ref">2433, CO 305/21, p. 87; received 13 March
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<orgName ref="org:foreign_office">Foreign Office</orgName>
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<date when="1863-03-12">12 March 1863</date>
<salute>Sir,</salute>
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I am directed by <persName ref="prs:russell_j">Earl Russell</persName> to transmit to you herewith, to be laid
before the <persName ref="prs:newcastle">Duke of Newcastle</persName>, a copy of a Despatch from Her Majesty's
Consul at <placeName ref="plc:san_francisco">San Francisco</placeName>, reporting the construction at <placeName ref="plc:new_york">New York</placeName> of an
iron clad steamer, the "<name ref="vsl:cumanche" type="vessel">Cumanche</name>," which is intended for service on
the coast of California.
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I am,<lb/>
Sir,<lb/>
Your most obedient,<lb/>
humble Servant.<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:murray_j">James Murray</persName>
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<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName><lb/>
The statements of <persName ref="prs:booker_wl">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Booker</persName>, who is our very watchful &amp; I believe
efficient Consul at <placeName ref="plc:san_francisco">San Francisco</placeName> add strength to the "rumors"
reported by <persName ref="prs:douglas_j"><choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> Douglas</persName> in 2060.
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Copy to Adm<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi> with reference to Col: Off. L<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> of <date when="1863-03-06">6<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> ins<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></date>.
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<p>
I presume that it <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> be misplaced for this office, or the For:
Office to suggest to the Adm<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">y</hi>, the inference that if the Americans
are really sending Iron<pb facs="co_305_21/co_305_21_00090r.jpg"/> Steam Vessels of War to California we must do
the same for the protection of British interests on the N.W. coasts
of America.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1863-03-13">
13/3
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What ought to be done must depend on the general wants of the
Service in all parts of the World, on the comparative importance of
Each, on the credit to be attached to the present rumors, and to the
real character and efficiency of the iron clad vessels supposed to be
destined for California. The question for decision is whether we
know enough of the matter departmentally to offer an opinion to the
<orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> or make a requisition on them for an iron ship, or whether
this letter should merely be sent to them for their information.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1863-03-13">
13 March
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<persName ref="prs:newcastle">Duke of Newcastle</persName><lb/>
I have been in private communication with the <persName ref="prs:seymour_e">D. of Somerset</persName> on the
subject of our letter of the <date when="1863-03-06">6<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> this month</date>. The <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> has not
at present any iron Vessel that could be spared consistently with
other<pb facs="co_305_21/co_305_21_00090v.jpg"/> equipment but they are alive to the enquiries of the Pacific
Stations and will attend to them as soon as they can. I am surprised
to find they think they could send such a Vessel round <placeName ref="plc:cape_horn">Cape Horn</placeName>.
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To <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName> for information with reference to previous letter.
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:newcastle">N</persName>
<date when="1863-03-15">
15
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Copy, <persName ref="prs:booker_wl">W.L. Booker</persName>, British Consul, to [<orgName ref="org:foreign_office">Foreign Office</orgName>], <date when="1863-01-22">22 January
1863</date>, providing details and dimensions of an iron clad vessel being
constructed in <placeName ref="plc:new_york">New York</placeName> for use by the Americans off the coast of
California.
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<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">Elliot</persName> to Secretary to the <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName>, <date when="1863-03-18">18 March 1863</date>, forwarding
copy of the letter from the British Consul at <placeName ref="plc:san_francisco">San Francisco</placeName> for
information.
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