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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Public Offices document. 
                Minutes (2), Other documents (1).</p>

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Emigration Office
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<persName ref="prs:murdoch_twc">Murdoch</persName> to <persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">Elliot</persName> (Assistant Under-Secretary)
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">1909, CO 305/21, p. 155; received 19 February
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
Emigration Office
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<date when="1863-02-18">18 February 1863</date>
<salute>Sir,</salute>
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<p>
I have to acknowledge your letter of <date when="1863-02-02">2<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">nd</hi> instant</date>, with further
despatches from the Governor of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver Island</placeName> on the subject of
the Land in the Town of <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> supposed to have been ceded to the
Crown by the Indenture of <date when="1862-02-03">3<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rd</hi> Febry 1862</date>.
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2. <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Governor Douglas</persName> reports that he has been unable to obtain from
the Companys Agent any statement of the land so ceded—that in order
to expedite the matter he had submitted to the Agent sketch maps of
the Land<pb facs="co_305_21/co_305_21_00157v.jpg"/> specified in the Agreement—but that in nearly every case
the boundaries have been disputed, and in one case the site
altogether changed. He requests to be furnished with a copy of the
chart referred to in the Agreement as "the Company's plan" expressing
his belief that no such plan existed at that date in the Colony—and
he intimates that since the Agreement was received there, the Agent
of the Company has been disposing of land which was previously
supposed to have been unsold, and which would, therefore, have
belonged to the Crown.
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3. The plan which we had before us when the Agreement<pb facs="co_305_21/co_305_21_00185r.jpg"/> was entered
into was that drawn by <persName ref="prs:pemberton_jd">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Pemberton</persName> and published in <placeName ref="plc:london">London</placeName> in <date when="1861">1861</date>
by <persName ref="prs:arrowsmith">Arrowsmith</persName>. I have applied to <persName ref="prs:arrowsmith">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Arrowsmith</persName> for a copy of it.
We certainly understood from <persName ref="prs:dallas">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Dallas</persName> that a considerable extent to
the south west of <placeName ref="plc:james_bay">James' Bay</placeName> was at that time unsold, though <persName ref="prs:dallas">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
Dallas</persName> did not profess to be able to state exactly how much. If
<persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Governor Douglas</persName> is correct in supposing that the Company's Agent has
been disposing of Land on account of the Company since <date when="1862-01-01">1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> Janry
1862</date>, such a proceeding is clearly inconsistent with the terms of the
Agreement and ought not to be<pb facs="co_305_21/co_305_21_00158v.jpg"/> allowed. Perhaps the best course will
be to send a copy of <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Governor Douglas</persName>' despatch to the Governor of
the Company and to call on him to cooperate with the Government in
bringing this matter to an early and amicable settlement, by
instructions to the Agent of the Company in the Colony to adhere
strictly and in good faith to the conditions of the Agreement. Of
course no grant by the Company within the <placeName ref="plc:victoria">Victoria</placeName> Reserve dated
after <date when="1862-01-01">1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> Janry 1862</date> could be recognized, unless it could be shown
that the negociations for them had proceeded so far before that date<pb facs="co_305_21/co_305_21_00159r.jpg"/>
as to make their completion a matter of right. And even in that case
the price paid for the land if paid after <date when="1862-01-01">1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> Janry 1862</date>, must, I
think, be considered to belong to the Crown not to the Company.
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I have the honor to be<lb/>
Sir<lb/>
Your Obedient<lb/>
Humble Servant<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:murdoch_twc">T.W.C. Murdoch</persName>
<lb/>
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<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName><lb/>
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1863-02-19">
19 Feb
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<ab><hi style="text-decoration: underline;"><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName></hi><lb/>
Adopt <persName ref="prs:murdoch_twc">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Murdoch</persName>'s conclusions, and write to the Company
accordingly?
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<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1863-02-19">
19 Feby
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<signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
<date when="1863-02-19">
19/2
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<signed><persName ref="prs:fortescue">CF</persName>
<date when="1863-02-20">
20
</date>
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<signed><persName ref="prs:newcastle">N</persName>
<date when="1863-02-21">
21
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<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">Elliot</persName> to <persName ref="prs:berens_hh">H.H. Berens</persName>, <orgName ref="org:hbc">Hudson's Bay Company</orgName>, <date when="1863-02-27">27 February 1863</date>,
forwarding two despatches received from the governor and commenting on
the difficulties encountered by <persName ref="prs:douglas_j">Douglas</persName> relative to the land
settlement issue with the company.
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