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<author><persName ref="prs:walcott_s">Walcott</persName></author>
<respStmt><resp>addressee</resp>
<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)</persName>
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<publicationStmt><p>Published by Jim Hendrickson and the University of Victoria.</p>
</publicationStmt><notesStmt><note xml:id="V645LN05_citation"><bibl><persName ref="prs:walcott_s"><surname>Walcott</surname>, <forename>Stephen</forename></persName> to <persName ref="prs:rogers_f"><surname>Rogers</surname>,  <forename>Frederic</forename></persName> 7 October 1864, CO 305:24, no. 9235, 140.<title level="m">The Colonial Despatches of Vancouver Island and British Columbia 1846-1871</title>, Edition 2.6, ed. James Hendrickson and the Colonial Despatches project. Victoria, B.C.: University of Victoria. <ref target="V645LN05.html">https://bcgenesis.uvic.ca/V645LN05.html</ref>.
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<profileDesc><abstract><p>Public Offices document. 
                Minutes (4), Other documents (1).</p>

<p><persName ref="prs:walcott_s">Walcott</persName> offers the opinions of the <orgName ref="org:emigration_office">Emigration Board</orgName> regarding the conveyance of <placeName ref="plc:fisgard_island">Fisgard Island</placeName> to the government for use as a lighthouse site. The <orgName ref="org:colonial_office">Colonial Office</orgName> staff minutes their agreement to accept <persName ref="prs:walcott_s">Walcott</persName>’s suggestions.</p>
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<persName ref="prs:walcott_s"><surname>Walcott</surname>, <forename>Stephen</forename></persName>
<address><addrLine>
Emigration Board
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<persName ref="prs:rogers_f"><surname>Rogers</surname>,  <forename>Frederic</forename></persName>
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Walcott to Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">9235, CO 305/24, p. 140; received 8 October
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
<orgName ref="org:emigration_office">Emigration Board</orgName>
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1864-10-07">7<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> October 1864</date>
<salute>Sir</salute>
</opener>
<p>
I have to acknowledge your letter of the <date when="1864-10-07">3<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rd</hi> inst</date> with a copy of one
from <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> W.A.G. Young</persName>, the late Colonial Secretary of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouvers
Island</placeName>, on the subject of his Conveyance to the Surveyor General of
<placeName ref="plc:fisgard_island">Fisguard Island</placeName>.
</p>
<p>
2. <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName>s letter is in reply to a communication addressed to him
by direction of <persName ref="prs:cardwell">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Cardwell</persName> for the purpose of obtaining an
explanation<pb facs="co_305_24/co_305_24_00142v.jpg"/> of the circumstances under which the sale and conveyance
of <placeName ref="plc:fisgard_island">Fisguard Island</placeName> took place.
</p>
<p>
3. It will be remembered that <persName ref="prs:kennedy_a">Governor Kennedy</persName> in his despatch of
the <date when="1864-06-21">21<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> June last</date> mentioned that he had made enquiries on the
subject, of the Treasurer, the Acting Colonial Secretary, the
Attorney General, and the Surveyor General, that they had
respectively disclaimed all knowledge of the execution or existence
of the Deed—and that there was no record of it in the Colonial
Secretary's Office. The only circum<pb facs="co_305_24/co_305_24_00143r.jpg"/>stance which appeared to be known
was that £150 had been paid to <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName> nearly four years and a half
before the execution of the conveyance.
</p>
<p>
4. <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName>'s present explanation gives a different complexion to
the case. He states in effect that in <date when="1859">1859</date> <placeName ref="plc:fisgard_island">Fishguard
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Island</placeName>, then the property of his wife, having been selected by a
Board of Naval Officers as a site for a Lighthouse, <persName ref="prs:pemberton_jd">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Pemberton</persName> the
Surveyor General applied to him to name a sum for its purchase by the
Colonial Government—that looking at his<pb facs="co_305_24/co_305_24_00143v.jpg"/> official position he
declined to give a price, but stated his willingness to accept such
sum as might be settled by competent authority—and suggested to the
Surveyor General to consult with the Governor on the subject—that
shortly afterwards the Surveyor General named £150 which <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName>
accepted although at the time he considered it under the value of the
property—that <persName ref="prs:pemberton_jd">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Pemberton</persName> or his Assistant <persName ref="prs:pearse">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Pearse</persName> shortly
afterwards presented to him a Purchase Deed to be executed by<pb facs="co_305_24/co_305_24_00144r.jpg"/> himself
and his Wife—that he personally submitted this Deed to the Attorney
General—that he attended with his wife before the Chief Justice in
order to go through the formalities necessary for passing a married
woman's Estate—that for the lack of certain Certificates the
transaction could not then be completed—that he instantly applied,
but without success, to the Attorney General for the required
Certificates—that on failing in several subsequent applications both
to the Attorney General and Chief Justice to get the matter
completed, he allowed it to stand over, and did not in fact execute
the<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">the</fw><pb facs="co_305_24/co_305_24_00144v.jpg"/> Deed until the eve of his departure from the Colony. <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName>
adds that the Draft of the deed and the plan of the property attached
to it was actually prepared in the Surveyor General's Office—and he
denies that the purchase money was paid to him by the Surveyor General
upon his order as Colonial Secretary. He explains however that
although his name appeared on the requisition authorizing the
expenditure, in common with other items, this conveyed no authority
from him individually, but merely certified according to established<pb facs="co_305_24/co_305_24_00145r.jpg"/>
custom, that the Documents having been laid before the Governor, the
outlay had been by him approved and the Treasurer authorized to pass
it. <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName> concludes by stating the readiness of himself and his
Wife to do what may be necessary for perfecting the Conveyance; and
without making a direct claim he appeals to the Secretary of State
against the inadequacy of the price he received for <placeName ref="plc:fisgard_island">Fisguard Island</placeName>,
which, had it been sold by auction would, he considers, have realized
not less than $5000 or about £1000.
</p>
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<p>
5. In justice to <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName> I would suggest that a copy of his letter
should be forwarded for the information of the Governor as it is
difficult to reconcile its statements with those of some of the
officers he consulted.
</p>
<p>
6. The practical step which remains to be taken is to obtain from
<persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName> and his Wife a fresh conveyance of the fee simple of
<placeName ref="plc:fisgard_island">Fisguard Island</placeName> as suggested in my report of the <date when="1864-09-08">8<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> ultimo</date>. The
form of this Conveyance—to whom it should me made—and whether <persName ref="prs:pemberton_jd">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi><pb facs="co_305_24/co_305_24_00146r.jpg"/>
Pemberton</persName> should be a party to it are matters which <persName ref="prs:cardwell">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Cardwell</persName> will
doubtless wish to have referred for the consideration of the
Solicitor of <orgName ref="org:treasury">the Treasury</orgName>.
</p>
<p>
7. With regard to <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName>'s implied claim for additional
compensation for parting with the Property, I may remark that
<persName ref="prs:kennedy_a">Governor Kennedy</persName> considers that the intrinsic value of <placeName ref="plc:fisgard_island">Fisguard Island</placeName> is "merely nominal" and that <persName ref="prs:richards_gh">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Richards</persName>, the Hydrographer to
the <orgName ref="org:admiralty">Admiralty</orgName>, who was consulted on this matter, states in his letter
to <persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName> of the <date when="1863-08-20">20<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> August<pb facs="co_305_24/co_305_24_00146v.jpg"/> last</date>, that although the Island is
very small and of no intrinsic value, yet looking to parallel cases
he did not conceive that the remuneration paid to <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName> was
unreasonable. I should presume that <persName ref="prs:young_wag">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Young</persName>'s appeal on this point
will not be entertained.
</p>
<closer>
I have the honor to be<lb/>
Sir<lb/>
Your obedient<lb/> 
Humble Servant<lb/>
<persName ref="prs:walcott_s">S. Walcott</persName>
<lb/>
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<ab><hi style="text-decoration: underline;"><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName></hi><lb/>
Adopt these suggestions? See your query on 9031.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1864-10-08">
8 Oct<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi>
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
Proceed as proposed requesting the Solicitors advice as to the steps
if any <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> be taken to convey property to the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice> of
<placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">V.C.I.</placeName> &amp; to frame the requisite deeds.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
<date when="1864-10-08">
8/10
</date>
</signed>
<signed><persName ref="prs:cardwell">EC</persName>
<date when="1864-10-09">
9
</date>
</signed>
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<ab>
Yes. Conveyance reciting facts and purporting
to convey to <persName ref="prs:queen_victoria">the Queen</persName> the rights of Mr &amp; <persName ref="prs:young_c">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rs</hi> Young</persName> &amp; <persName ref="prs:pemberton_jd">Mr Pemberton</persName>?
</ab>
<closer><signed>[<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>]
</signed>
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<ab>
Draft reply, <persName ref="prs:cardwell">Cardwell</persName> to <persName ref="prs:kennedy_a">Kennedy</persName>, No. 42, <date when="1864-10-13">13 October 1864</date>.
</ab>
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<ab>
It occurs to me on considering this case that the consideration how<lb/>
this deed <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> be framed belongs to the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> of <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">V.C.I.</placeName> and to the
<orgName ref="org:colonial_office">Colonial Office</orgName>. There may be laws or practices in <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">V.C.I.</placeName> <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> render
a particular form of conveyance applicable or inapplicable in such a
case—and duly of little consequence.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
</signed>
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