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<head>
[Equte?] to Under-Secretary of State
</head>
<opener><ref type="co_ref">9055, CO 305/30, p. 114; received 21 September
</ref>
<address><addrLine>
<orgName ref="org:foreign_office">Foreign Office</orgName>
</addrLine>
</address>
<date when="1866-09-20">September 20 1866</date>
<salute>Sir,</salute>
</opener>
<p>
I have laid before <persName ref="prs:stanley">Lord Stanley</persName> your letter of the <date when="1866-09-15">15<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi> instant</date> on
the subject of a salute fired by direction of the American Consul
in <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">Vancouver's Island</placeName> on the anniversary of the independence of the
United States; and I am directed to state to you, in reply, for the
information of the <persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Earl of Carnarvon</persName>, that <persName ref="prs:stanley">Lord Stanley</persName> does not
 see why the Agents of the United States should not<fw type="catchword" style="text-align: right;">be</fw><pb facs="co_305_30/co_305_30_00114v.jpg"/> be entitled to
celebrate the anniversary of the birth of their country as an
independent nation in the same manner as The Queen's birthday is
celebrated by the Agents of Great Britain.
</p>
<p>
 Independence Day is kept all over the United States and <persName ref="prs:stanley">Lord Stanley</persName> thinks that after ninety years have elapsed since the
events which led to its institution took place, it would be
unreasonable to regard its celebration as offensive to this country.
</p>
<closer>
 I am,<lb/> 
 Sir,<lb/>
 Your most obedient<lb/> 
 humble Servant<lb/>
 [<persName ref="prs:equte_ec">E.C. Equie</persName>?]
<lb/>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">M<hi style="text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Elliot</persName><lb/>
Inform the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> of the views of H.M. <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice> on this point. (I
 conclude that <persName ref="prs:stanley">Lord Stanley</persName>'s opinion <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> be accepted as that of
H.M. <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice>.) A communication <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> be addressed to <placeName ref="plc:hong_kong">Hong Kong</placeName> if
not to all Governors.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1866-09-21">
21 Sep
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
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<div type="minute_entry">
<ab>
Forwarded for consideration.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:elliot_tf">TFE</persName>
<date when="1866-09-21">
21/9
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
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<div type="minute_entry">
<ab>
<persName ref="prs:carnarvon">L<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> Carnarvon</persName><lb/>
I have no doubt you will accept <persName ref="prs:stanley">L<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> Stanley</persName>'s opinion &amp; ans<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> both
Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rs</hi> "not considered case for interference."
</ab>
<p>
 The persistence of the US Consul at <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">VCI</placeName> after <persName ref="prs:kennedy_a">Kennedy</persName>'s refusal
of leave asked for, would be graver, but the Consul seems of no
character—&amp; <persName ref="prs:kennedy_a">Kennedy</persName> is leaving.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:adderley_cb">CBA</persName>
<date when="1866-09-22">
22/9
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
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<ab>
This letter from the <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">F.O.</orgName> is singularly inaccurate in it's
references to the case and the questions contained in ours of the
<date when="1866-09-15">15<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">th</hi></date>. The offence of the U.S. Consul was not [that] he
celebrated the National Anniversary—for this c<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> be no cause of
annoyance to us as the writer of the <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">F.O.</orgName> letter seems to
imagine—but that he celebrated it 1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> by the discharge of
artillery, <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> I believe is
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;">not</hi> "the manner in which the Queen's birthday is celebrated by
the Queen's Agents:" 2<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">nd</hi> that he did so in direct violation of the
Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rs</hi> authority. It is not to the point that Independance day is
kept all over the U.S. by such discharges of artillery, for the
essence of this transaction is that it occurred in the Colony
within 1/2 mile of the Public Offices.
</ab>
<p>
This must be pointed out to the <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">F.O.</orgName> stating at the same time that
in my<pb facs="co_305_30/co_305_30_00116v.jpg"/> opinion the Consuls act was a breach of courtesy and good
taste rather [than] any serious cause for complaints, that though
thinking it right to give <persName ref="prs:stanley">L<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> Stanley</persName> the opportunity of expressing
any op<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">n</hi> on the issue of any instructions to Col. Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">rs</hi> I am quite
content to leave the matter as it stands.
</p>
<p>
In replying it s<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> be borne in mind that no objection of course
exists to the celebration of a national anniversary by the
discharge of guns from a
<hi style="text-decoration: underline;"><choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi></abbr><expan>Government</expan></choice> ship</hi>: but this was done by private &amp; unauthorised
persons on board a private boat.
</p>
<p>
The d<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">ft</hi> will require care.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:carnarvon">C</persName>
<date when="1866-09-25">
25 Sep
</date>
</signed>
</closer>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:graham_cc">M<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi> Graham</persName> has put in my hands 9055 <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">V.C.I</placeName>.
</ab>
<closer><signed>[<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>]
</signed>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Lord Carnarvon</persName><lb/>
I should think the Consul's case <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> be this. He would say
<milestone unit="section" rend=".ind on"/>
</ab>
<p>
I never heard that there was any law in <placeName ref="plc:vancouver_island">V.C. Island</placeName> (nor does the
<choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> positively state that there is one) <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> prevents any man
from firing any number of guns he likes on his own property or from a
vessel belonging to or hired by him.
</p>
<p>
I had the intention of firing these guns from some spot, a boat, a
ship <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> I could procure for the occasion, but <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> have preferred
Beacon hill (I suppose public property) if the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> have let
me have it for the purpose. But the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> not let me have it
and therefore I recurred to my original intention of firing from
a hired vessel. I was not called to take any notice of his refusal
to give "an official sanction" (<choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> refusal was no doubt very
natural) to<pb facs="co_305_30/co_305_30_00117v.jpg"/> a proceeding with which he had no power to interfere
"officially" in one way or the other. In fact his refusal to give
an "official sanction" almost implied that personally he had no
objection.
<milestone unit="section" rend=".ind off"/>
</p>
<p>
I do not see how this could be answered on the papers as they
stand.
</p>
<p>
I <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> be inclined to instruct the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> that there is no objection
to the Celebration of the American anniversary by any means in
themselves harmless. And that the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> may properly give a
countenance or facility
to such celebrations as he <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> be justified in giving
to the celebration of the Birthday of any Foreign Soveriegn by the
subjects of that Sovereign. That if the means adopted by Americans
are contrary to law, as he supposes, he <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice><pb facs="co_305_30/co_305_30_00118r.jpg"/> after due notice
impose the law for their prevention—if they are not contrary to
law but are so calculated to cause danger or inconvenience as to
justify Legislative prohibition he <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> procure the passing of a
Law prohibiting the inconvenient or dangerous practices not of
course with reference to the U.S. but generally as matter of
municipal regulation. If the mode of celebration, though
objectionable &amp; inconvenient is yet not
illegal nor so inconvenient as to justify legislative interference
he <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> use his influence with the U.S. Consul in order to
discountenance such practices, and in case his remonstrances, are
unheeded <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> report what had passed to the S. of State.
</p>
<p>
But if the mode of celebration whether by firing guns or
otherwise is not inconvenient dangerous or illegal, but only is
viewed with dislike by certain British subjects, he <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>would</expan></choice> act most
prudently in refusing to interfere<pb facs="co_305_30/co_305_30_00118v.jpg"/> with the American mode of
celebrating their holiday, and taking any opportunity <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> may occur
to him to discountenance any hostile feeling to that demonstration
on the part of the English Colonists.
</p>
<p>
I <choice><abbr>sh<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></abbr><expan>should</expan></choice> be inclined to draft an instruction somewhat in this sense &amp;
send it for concurrence to the <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">F.O.</orgName>
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>
<date when="1866-09-26">
26/9
</date>
</signed>
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<div type="minute_entry">
<ab>
It appears to me that while it is desirable not to encourage
"Americanizing" practices in our Colonies, it is quite as desirable
to prevent an antagonistic policy bet<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">n</hi> British &amp; Americans <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice>
will prevent the American from amalgamating &amp; becoming what I fancy
they tend to become—good average subjects.
</ab>
<closer><signed>[<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">FR</persName>]
</signed>
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<ab>
 There is g<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> force in <persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName>' remarks, especially in his
concluding paragraph.
<milestone unit="section" rend=".of 5"/>
1<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">st</hi> therefore df<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> a desp: to the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> in the sense
of the min.
<milestone unit="section" rend=".of 5"/>
2. df<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">t</hi> a letter to the <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">F.O.</orgName> forwarding to them for their
information the desp: to the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice>.
<milestone unit="section" rend=".of "/></ab>
<p>
The letter to the <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">F.O.</orgName> may begin by expressing my concurrence in
<persName ref="prs:stanley">L<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> Stanley</persName>'s op<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">n</hi> that every facility s<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> be given to American
citizens to celebrate their national Anniversary &amp; the same
latitude as is accorded to the "Queen's Agents" elsewhere. But
that such celebration s<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> be in accordance with the laws of the
Colony &amp; the usages elsewhere recognised and that the alleged
offence of the Consul consists not in the celebration of such
anniversary but in the unauthorised discharge of artillery from a
private vessel, by private persons in a part of the Colony <choice><abbr>w<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">h</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> is
said to be inconvenienced.
</p>
<p>
That it is of course quite competent<pb facs="co_305_30/co_305_30_00119v.jpg"/> for the Americans to keep
Independence day by salvos of artillery all over the U.S. but that
the gist of the alleged offence on the part of the Consul is that it
occurred in the Colony, within 1/2 mile of the Public Offices.
</p>
<p>
That the act of the Consul was in my opinion a breach of good taste
rather than a cause of serious complaint &amp; that I propose to write
the enclosed desp. to the <choice><abbr>Gov<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">r</hi></abbr><expan>Governor</expan></choice> on the subject.
</p>
<p>
Then add a sentence on the general importance of maintaining
harmony &amp; good will between H.M. subjects &amp; any Americans resident
in the Colony much in the sense of <persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Sir F. Rogers</persName>' min.
</p>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:carnarvon">C</persName>
<date when="1866-09-27">
27 Sep
</date>
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<ab>
<persName ref="prs:rogers_f">Rogers</persName> to <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">Foreign Office</orgName>, <date when="1866-10-09">9 October 1866</date>, forwarding draft of
a despatch intended for the governor and explaining in detail that
while there was no intention to disallow independence celebrations,
such activities should be conducted "in accordance with the laws of
the Colony and usages elsewhere recognized."
</ab>
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<div type="other_entry"><div><pb facs="co_305_30/co_305_30_00122r.jpg"/>
<ab>
 Draft reply, <persName ref="prs:carnarvon">Carnarvon</persName> to Officer Administering the
Government, Confidential, <date when="1867-01-01">1 January 1867</date>.
</ab>
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<div type="minute_entry"><pb facs="co_305_30/co_305_30_00122r.jpg"/>
<ab><hi style="text-decoration: underline;">Mem:</hi><lb/>
Not to be despatched until the <orgName ref="org:foreign_office">F.O.</orgName> shall have ans<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi> the Letter
addressed to them on this subject.
</ab>
<closer><signed><persName ref="prs:blackwood_aj">AB<hi style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 80%;">d</hi></persName>
<date when="1866-10-02">
2 Oct
</date>
</signed>
<signed><persName ref="prs:carnarvon">C</persName>
</signed>
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