No. 12
16th February 1871
My Lord,
I have the honor to forward for Your Lordship's information a
copy of correspondence which has passed between
Lord Lisgar and
myself, partly by telegraph, respecting certain resolutions of
the Legislative Council proposing
modifications modifications of the present
British Columbian Tariff in lieu of the adoption of the Canadian
Schedule of Duties upon the Union of this Colony with the
Dominion.
2. By the terms of Union arranged with the Government of Canada
it is agreed that the existing Tariff and Excise Duties of
British Columbia shall continue in force until the proposed
Railway
Railway from the Pacific Coast and the system of Railways in
Canada shall be connected, unless the Legislature of
British
Columbia should sooner decide to accept the Tariff and Excise
Laws of Canada. If the alternative is strictly limited to this
option, the decision of the majority will be in favor of the
Canadian Tariff, which on most Articles of general consumption
is
much much lower than the scale of duties now collected here. I
enclose for Your Lordship's information a Comparative Statement
of the two Schedules.
3. A large and influential section of the Community and the
Council, however, dread the effect of the Canadian Tariff and
Excise Laws upon the Agricultural and Manufacturing interests of
the
Colony Colony. The chief objection to that Tariff is the low scale
of duties levied upon Cereals. Flour being admitted at a very
low rate of duty it is alleged that the erection of Mills and
the establishment and development of an important branch of
Industry will be prevented; and that, in the absence of Mills,
Wheat will not be grown.
4. The Excise Laws of
Canada Canada will it is feared bear hardly upon
the Brewers who are at present exempt from any duty, in which
case it is said a smaller quantity of Barley will be grown and
thus both Brewers and Farmers would suffer.
5. The great difference in the rates of duty on Spirits in the
two Tariffs is one main inducement to the advocates of
the the
Canadian scale to press for its adoption. It is sought
therefore to effect a compromise, by which, certain alterations
being made on specified Articles, the remainder of the present
British Columbian Tariff may, at all events for the present, be
retained, and with it our own Excise Law which only applies to
Distilleries.
6. The Council accordingly
propose propose to the Canadian Government
that the duty on Spirits shall be reduced to the Canadian rate,
viz: Eighty cents, per Gallon; the duty on Flour to seventy-five
cents per barrel; (present
British Columbia rate One Dollar and
Fifty Cents) and the duty on Wheat to Ten cents per bushel,
(present
British Columbia rate Thirty-five Cents
per per hundred
pounds). And that
British Columbia shall enter the Union with
her own Tariff so amended. The rates thus proposed are in no
case lower than those which would be adopted in the Canadian
Tariff so that Canada would suffer no pecuniary loss; and if
British Columbia may at all be allowed to retain for a time a
scale of duties different from
that that prevailing in the Dominion,
I do not see that the changes which are desired are
objectionable in principle.
7. Supposing the Canadian Government to assent to this proposal
time will not be afforded to make the alteration in the present
Session of the Legislature of this Colony, which will be the
last before Union;
and and the Attorney General doubts the
competency of that body to make any such alteration after assent
to the terms of Union, having reference to the language of the
agreement there embodied. But by consent of both parties
concerned what is desired may be obtained. And it is submitted
that if the Canadian Parliament assent to the proposal and such
assent is embodied in their Address to
the Queen, reciting the
Resolution of the British Columbian Legislature to which assent
is given, the arrangement may then be carried into effect by
Order of the Queen in Council declaring the Union of this
Province with the Dominion.
8. As I have stated in my Despatch to
Lord Lisgar,
MrTrutch Trutch,
who has already proceeded on his way to Canada, has been
instructed to afford all necessary information to the Canadian
Government, and on his arrival in London he will be able to
acquaint Your Lordship with the result of the negotiations upon
this subject.
9. I have succeeded in
separating separating the acceptance of the terms,
from any questions upon this matter. And in the event of the
Government of Canada declining to meet the wishes of the
Council, they are prepared to enter the Union with our own
Tariff as it stands under the Agreement in the terms of the
Address.
I have the honor to be,
My Lord,
Your most obedient
Humble Servant
A. Musgrave
Minutes by CO staff
Mr Holland
See Minutes on
Govr Musgrave 3286—this is the despatch he
therein refers to with reference to the reserved Act
amending this Tariff. See also from
Lord Lisgar 1883 Canada.
I conclude nothing can be done till we hear further from
Lord
Lisgar.
But you will see
Columbia is still for Union amended Tariff or no.
Sir F. Rogers
It would be very unfortunate if any difficulty
arises, which
would tend to delay the confederation of
B Columbia with Canada.
But I am not sure
that
Govr Musgrave's view, as expressed in par 7, is correct.
Looking to the
words of the 146
th section of the B.N. America Act, I
think the addresses from
B. Columbia & Canada should contain
the same terms & conditions.
Would it be worth while to ask the Law Officers whether
Mr
Musgraves mode of dealing with the difficulty can be legally
carried into effect, or whether the addresses must be framed
in similar terms? If they answer that the addresses must be the
same, we could telegraph, but even then it may be too late for
a fresh address to be prepared in
B. Columbia.
It is of course possible that the question may not arise, as the
Canad
n Govt may decline to make any change. This indeed seems
probable from
Lord Lisgar's telegram.
I would do nothing till we hear more. We shall only rather
clog the matter by doing So, as it seems to me.
Nothing from
Lord Lisgar. The Union Order in Council it is
intended should pass the Council on
Tuesday 16th.
It has a suspending Clause & if to be confirmed
would be so by Order in Council
& on
Tuesday also.
Sir F. Rogers
My opinion is that this Act should not be specially confirmed,
but the point is not free from doubt.
The Act repeals a former Act which imposed an Extra duty on
spirits. This duty was imposed for a special purpose & it is
stated that there was a Kind of pledge that the duty shd be
temporary.
While the duty was in force,
B Columbia & Canada come to terms
about admission, & one term is "that the
existing Customs Tariff & Excise Duties shall continue in force in
B Columbia until a certain date unless the legislature of
BC
should sooner decide to accept the Tariff Laws of Canada."
(I enclose draft order.)
Govr Musgrave says (3286) that the Legislature
of
B Columbia
regard this temporary measure as forming no part of the
permanent tariff, & as not being included in the Terms of Union.
The Attorney General, however, evidently thinks otherwise & so
do I. This exception should have been made with respect to
this Duty.
The Canadn Govt have distinctly stated that they consider the
terms of Union should be adhered to (3466).
Under these circes, I think this Act—which has a
suspending clause—should not be sent to the Legt Council.
See subsequent Minute & drafts on 97/4894 Canada.
Documents enclosed with the main document (not transcribed)
Lisgar to
Musgrave,
1 February 1871, telegram advising that
although
British Columbia should adhere to the terms of union,
any reasonable modification to the tariff laws would be
considered by parliament.
Musgrave to
Lisgar,
10 February 1871, forwarding copy of a
resolution of the council on the subject
and advising that
Trutch, enroute to
Ottawa, would provide all necessary information on the subject.
Resolution of Legislative Council, 9 February 1871, describing
the desired changes to the tariff laws.
Printed comparative of Canadian and
British Columbia customs
tariffs, as per despatch.
People in this document
Cox, Charles
Dealtry, William
Holland, Henry Thurston
Musgrave, Sir Anthony
Rogers, Baron Blachford Frederic
Trutch, Sir Joseph William
Victoria, Queen Alexandrina
Wodehouse, First Earl of Kimberley John
Young, Sir John, Baron Lisgar,
Places in this document
British Columbia
Ottawa