Extract No - 6 for Admity
D - No 7 for Foreign Off
                
               
               
               16th  Decr 1851.
               To the Right Honble. 
Earl Grey
               Her Majesty's principal Secretary of State
               for the Colonial Department
               
               
               
My Lord
                
            
            
            I have the honor to transmit herewith duplicate of my letter of
               the 31st Octr.
            
            
            
               There is nothing of importance to communicate respecting the
               Colony since that date; the Native Tribes continue their friendly
               intercourse with the Settlements, 
               
                  Extract |par 6| to Admiralty for [...]
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               and in return they are protected in
               their rights, and we endeavour by every possible means to conciliate
               their good will, as it is a matter of vast importance to acquire their
               confidence, and to lead them to appeal for redress in all cases of
               wrongs to the law of the land, instead of having recourse to lawless
               retaliation. ⎯
 
            
            
            
               A difficulty of some weight has lately occurred to me, in the
               settlement of disputes between the Colonists and Indians, which I will
               take the liberty of briefly submitting to your Lordship; for unless
               obviated in some way, it may prove dangerous to the peace of the Colony.
 
            
            
            The question was forced upon my attention some days ago, on the
               occasion of a complaint made by "
Tenasman," chief

 of the 
Soke Tribe,
               against 
Thomas Hall a white settler, who was charged with having
               forcibly 
dispossed the Plaintiff of a double barrelled fowling piece, leaving the Plaintiff a much inferior
               Gun, in return.
The plaintiff had no evidence to support the charge except the
                  testimony of one of his own countrymen, who not being a Christian, could
                  not be duly sworn. ⎯ I nevertheless admitted the evidence of the
               Plaintiff's witness, which however failed in proving the fact of force
               being used by the defendant, in obtaining the Plaintiff's Gun; while it
               was, on the contrary, proved by the defendant, that the exchange was
               effected without force being used, and by the mutual consent of the
               parties. ⎯ It appeared however that Plaintiff on being, better
               informed as to the relative value of the two guns, wished to recover his
               own. ⎯ The case was necessarily decided in favour of defendant, and
               against the Plaintiff who nevertheless had evidently been duped in the
               transaction, and I therefore prevailed upon the defendant, not by order
               of Court, but as a matter of justice, to give the plaintiff some further compensation.
            
            
            The question arising out of that simple case, on which I would
               request your Lordship's instructions is this: How far the testimony of
               Indians is to be admitted as evidence in the Law Courts of this Colony?
            
            
            It is not in my opinion advisable to

 receive Indian testimony in
               adjudging the disputes of white men; but in the case of disputes between
               the white man and Indian I do not see how we can with justice reject the
               only species of testimony the latter may have to offer, and when
               offences against life or property are committed by Indians, the only
               testimony against the offenders may be that of their own countrymen. On
               that subject I would take the liberty of remarking to your Lordship, how
               very important it is to the peace and security of the settlement that
               instant attention should be paid to the complaints of Indians, and their
               wrongs receive speedy redress as nothing will tend more to inspire
               confidence in the governing power, and to teach them that justice may be
               obtained by a less dangerous and more certain method than their own
               hasty and precipitate acts of private revenge.
               We have received advice from the Settlement at the north end of
               
the Island, up to the 10
th Nov
r, when every thing was well and
               quiet in that quarter. The Mining operations of the Hudson's Bay
               Comp
y at 
Fort Rupert, are proceeding with great spirit, but I am
               sorry to say, as yet without success, the bore having been carried to
               the depth of 183 feet, without revealing a remunerative bed of Coal;
               there is however every reason

 to hope that coal will eventually be found.
 
            
            
            
               The Puget Sound Comp
y are making extensive improvements on
               their Farms in the 
Victoria District, and several of the Hudson's Bay
               Company's Officers; who have purchased tracts of land, are building
               houses, and bringing the land gradually into cultivation. ⎯
 
            
            
            
               
               Since I had last the honor of addressing your Lordship two
               vessels from the American Ports in 
Puget Sound bound to 
Queen Charlottes Island have touched at this Port. They had 
collectively about 64
               passengers on board, who were going thither, for the purpose of digging
               Gold. ⎯ It is also currently reported that several vessels filled with
               passengers have sailed from 
the Columbia and California, for the same quarter. Their presence on the Coast will I fear, be
               productive of much
               evil, and lead to serious difficulties with the Native Tribes. ⎯ It has
               also occurred to me that those 
adventurers may possibly attempt to
               
plunder the British Trading Posts, on the neighbouring Coast, and I will further submit for
               your Lordships consideration the probability of their
               becoming formidable, from the mere force of numbers, and should Gold
               prove abundant, putting Government to

 much future trouble and expense in
               guarding national rights, unless measures are immediately taken to
               restrain the subjects of the United States, and other foreign powers
               from entering or forming settlements on 
that Island.
               
             
            
            
            
               We have very lately received intelligence that the Hudson's Bay
               Compys. Steam vessel "
Beaver" and one of their Coasting Vessels are
               detained at 
Nesqually by the Officers of the United States Customs upon frivolous pretences, a circumstance
               which has caused an intense
               excitement among the people of this Colony, and I had some difficulty in
               preventing a forcible demonstration on their part, for the rescue of the
               vessels; which had been sent to 
Nesqually principally to bring down
               Cattle, for the supply of the Colony.
 
            
            
            The proceedings of the United States Officers are highly
               injudicious, and a serious hindrance to trade. They however plead the
               orders they have received, and are receiving by every mail, from
               Washington, in justification of their proceedings. ⎯
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
               Minutes by CO staff
               
                
                  
                  
                     Mr Merivale.
                     The reports received from 
Governor Douglas respecting this settlement
                     are much more favorable than those we used to receive from 
Govr
                        Blanshard. Perhaps the former may be a little too anxious to view
                     things in a good light, whilst the latter was prejudiced against the
                     Hudson's Bay C
o.
                     
 
                  
                  
                  The question in Par: 3 you will be able to suggest a solution for.
                  
                  
                  Par: 6. should I think be referred to the Admiralty with positive
                     instructions to send and station a ship of War off 
Queen's Charlotte
                        Island. The discovery of gold in that quarter of 
the Queen's dominions,
                     & the resort thither of adventurers from different parts of the Pacific
                     & elsewhere seem to demand the despatch of some sort of force 
there to keep order in the Territory. At the same time the question is a nice one as
                     to the Government within which 
this Island is comprized. I conceive, after perusing the Governor of 
Van Couver's Island Commission that it is not under that officer's administration, & I am confirmed in
                     that
                     impression by the primâ facie evidence of a Map sent here by the
                     Hudson's Bay Company in 1851 which excludes 
Van Couvers Queen Charlotte Island from
                     the Territory over which they have possession. I assume therefore that
                     it must 
belong be a dependency of Canada in the absence of any proof to the
                     contrary. Be that, however, as it may it is clearly British Territory
                     and as such seems to require the moral support of a Man of War to
                     protect our national rights & private interests. If this view is
                     adopted an extract of Par: 6 should be sent to the Admiralty.
Par: 7. Do you think the complaint account of the conduct of the American
                     Customs Officers is sufficiently precise to found a complaint upon to
                     the Foreign Office? It might be sent there for their consideration.
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  As to par. 3. The instruction to 
Govr Douglas should be express
                     & distinct in my opinion. He should receive Indian testimony in all
                     cases, swearing or pledging the witnesses to the truth according to
                     whatever form is held most solemn among themselves. Nor should he
                     establish any such distinction as he proposes between their testimony in
                     cases between Whites & cases in which they are themselves 
                     †

† concerned.
                     They should be admitted in all cases. It will be for Courts & juries to
                     say what their testimony is worth.
Par. 6. I agree with 
Mr Blackwood. 
Queen Charlotte's Island is
                     clearly out of the Governor's Commission. It is British territory,
                     under the earlier trading licence of the H.B. Company, but not under
                     their Charter.
7. I should say that this should be sent to the F. office for
                     information, in order to keep them on their guard.
                  
                  
                  
                   
               
               
               
                
            
            
            
            
            
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                        Draft, Colonial Office to 
Hamilton, Admiralty, 
24 March 1852,
                        forwarding extract of despatch in support of the need to station a Ship
                        of War at 
Queen Charlotte Island.
                        
                     Minutes by CO staff
                     
                     
                     
                     
                     
                        
                        
                           (I do not feel sure of the 
necessity, but conclude 
Sir J
                              Pakington would wish the question submitted to the Adm
y at all events?)
                           
 
                      
                   
               
               
               
               
                
            
            
            
            
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                        Draft, Colonial Office to 
Addington, Foreign Office, 
24 March 1852, forwarding extract of despatch regarding the conduct of
                        American officials at 
Nisqually.
                        
                     Minutes by CO staff
                     
                      
                        
                        
                           The despatch should have accompanied this draft.
                           
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                           The Despatch from 
Govr Douglas was forwarded with this
                           Draft & was returned to the 
Dt a day or two ago together with the answer to it.
                           
 
                      
                   
               
               
               
               
                
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
               
               
                  People in this document
                  
                        Addington,  Henry Unwin
                        
                  
                        Blackwood, Arthur Johnstone
                  
                        Blanshard, Governor Richard
                        
                  
                        Cuffe, 3rd Earl of Desart John Otway O'Conner
                        
                  
                        Douglas, Sir James
                  
                        Grey, Third Earl,  Henry George 
                  
                        Hall, Thomas
                        
                  
                        Hamilton,  William Alexander Baille
                        
                  Jadis, Vane
                  Merivale, Herman
                  Pakington, Captain John Somerset
                  
                        Tenasman, Chief
                        
                  
                        Victoria, Queen Alexandrina
                        
                
               
                  Vessels in this document
                  Beaver, 1835-1888
                
               
                  Places in this document
                  Columbia River
                  Fort Rupert, or T'sakis
                  Haida Gwaii
                  Nisqually, or Fort Nisqually
                  Puget Sound
                  Sooke
                  Vancouver Island
                  Victoria