Young to Rogers (Permanent Under-Secretary)
Walmer Kent
23rd September 1864
Sir,
I have the honor to acknowledge receipt of your letter of the
21st
Instant, acquainting me, by direction of
Mr Secretary Cardwell, that
the Governor of
Vancouver's Island has recently brought to his notice
certain circumstances connected with the sale and transfer to the
Colonial Government of
Fisgard Island, and requesting, in view of the
official position I held in the
Colony Colony at the time the transaction
took place, that I will afford for the information of the Secretary
of State such explanation in regard to such sale and transfer as may
be in my power.
2. In accordance, therefore, with this desire of the Secretary of
State I have much pleasure in communicating to you the following
particulars.
3. During the year
1859, an Island called
Fisgard Island, lying at
the entrance of the Harbour of
Esquimalt, was selected by a Board of
Naval Officers for the site of a Lighthouse. That Island formed a
portion of an Estate called Belmont, then and now
the the property of my
Wife. This portion being thus selected and needed for public
purposes,
Mr Pemberton, the Surveyor General, applied to me to name
the amount of purchase money asked for its transfer to the Colonial
Government. I informed him that owing to the particular official
position I held, I declined to place any price upon it, but would be
prepared to accept upon behalf of my wife, whatever sum might be
settled by competent authority as a fair compensation for the loss we
should sustain by the alienation of the Island: and I suggested that
he, as Surveyor General, should consult
with with the Governor directly
upon the subject, instead of making reference through me as Colonial
Secretary. I assume that he did so, for shortly afterwards he
informed me that the sum of One Hundred and Fifty Pounds (£150) had
been named as Compensation, and he asked whether I was satisfied with
that sum. I told him that I considered it was very much under the
value of the Island, but, after what I had previously said, and in
view of my position as a public officer, I felt constrained to take
the amount offered. Within a few days
Mr Pemberton brought and paid
to me
the the amount in question, for which I gave such receipt as he
required. Shortly afterwards, but I do not now remember within what
precise time, either
Mr Pemberton, or his Assistant,
Mr Pearse,
presented to me the Deed to be executed by my wife and myself for the
conveyance of the land to the Colonial Government. I personally
submitted this Deed to the Attorney General, to ascertain whether it
was in order, and what were the precise formalities in relation to
its execution. The Attorney General acquainted me that it must be
executed by my wife in the presence of the Chief Justice. I
applied to the Chief Justice, and
obtained obtained the appointment of a day
for his attestation of her signature of the Deed. On that day I
brought my wife from
Esquimalt, where we then resided, and she and I
punctually appeared before the Chief Justice. He examined the Deed,
and informed me that it was imperfect, inasmuch as it lacked certain
Certificates which should be attached to it prior to its Execution,
and which it was the duty of the Attorney General to supply. I
instantly repaired to the office of the Attorney General—which was
in the same Building with the Judge's Chambers—in order to get the
omission at once supplied; but he was either absent,
or or else
specially engaged, so that I did not succeed in my object. As by
this time it was drawing towards dusk, and
Esquimalt a considerable
distance off, I was obliged—much to my vexation and annoyance—of
which I have now the most vivid recollection—to abandon for that day
the attempt I had then made formally to complete the final conveyance
of the property. As soon as practicable afterwards, I again handed
the Deed to the Attorney General, and stated what the Chief Justice
had said. He replied—to the best of my recollection—that he could
not then attach the required Certificates, as he had not by him the
necessary Book of reference. I then
again again sought the Chief Justice,
to ascertain whether I could procure from him the form of the
Certificates, as I was most anxious that the matter should be settled
and done with, and the trouble of it off my mind; but I failed to
accomplish my purpose, as I did also upon several occasions
subsequently, when I specially obtained the attendance of my wife to
complete the transaction. In these proceedings I had lost much
valuable time, and in the multiplicity of duties I had to attend to,
I then allowed the matter to stand over, as one—both parties being
upon the spot and always accessible—that could be concluded at any
moment;
and and thus time rolled on; but before leaving the Colony not
forgetting that the Conveyance was still unexecuted, and determined
to avoid the delays I had previously encountered, I employed my own
Solicitor,
Mr Drake, to complete the Draft Deed, and at some trouble
got the parties together and the Deed formally executed.
Mr Drake
was present and took the Deed into his custody, and I requested him
to forward it without loss of time to the Surveyor General, he being
the officer in whom the trust was vested, and in whose custody the
Deed should remain. I did not take the Deed and do this myself, for
the reason that being
within within a few hours of quitting the Colony, I
was nearly overwhelmed with the multitude of matters I had to arrange
and settle, and I knew that the Deed was quite safe in
Mr Drake's
hands. I can now only express my great regret that
Mr Drake should
have delayed to carry out my wishes until a period of more than a
month after my departure from the Colony.
4. I have related these circumstances in detail, although in as
brief a manner as the subject would permit, in order to describe the
formalities that occurred, and to shew that both my wife and myself
were not only prepared but were
really really anxious to execute and
complete the conveyance of the property, concurrently with the
payment of the purchase money, and that the delay which ensued was
more attributable to others, than to us as individuals. I believe
this statement furnishes all the information more especially
required by the Secretary of State, with the exception of one
point—the non-execution of the Deed by
Mr Pemberton, the Surveyor
General, the party to whom the property was conveyed. With respect
to this I can only add that I am unable to reply to the query further
than to say that I do not think such a proceeding is
customary—certainly not in
Vancouver's Island—
andand I am not aware
that the absence of
Mr Pembertons signature in any way affects the
validity of the transfer. I would also remark in regard to the
non-delivery of the deed concurrently with the payment of the
purchase money, that although in this particular case there was no
studied or intentional delay, yet that it is not a remarkable or
solitary instance in
Vancouver's Island of such non-delivery. I am
aware of many instances—Some so far back as
1858, in which year the
purchase of certain lands from the Hudson's Bay Company was
completed—and yet up to the period of my leaving the Colony no Deeds
had been delivered. I could also cite other instances, if it
were were
necessary, but I merely allude to the circumstances to shew that this
particular case, in which I happen to be concerned, is not
unprecedented.
5. I further, cannot conclude without expressing my regret that the
Governor, as appears by your letter, should have failed in obtaining
any information from the Officers of the Government in
Vancouver's
Island in respect of this transaction, beyond, apparently, the
solitary fact that money was paid
to me for the land, and as is alleged by
my order. There was
no mystery connected with the acquisition of the land by the
Government. It was well known that
Fisgard Island was private
property for years antecedent to that acquisition.
The The particulars I
have narrated in respect of the execution of the Deed cannot have
escaped the memory of the Chief Justice. The Attorney General must
remember my repeated applications to him upon the subject. The
original Draft Deed was actually prepared in the Surveyor Generals
Office. The map attached to it was likewise prepared in the Surveyor
Generals Office; and I believe that the map now attached to the
executed Deed was actually only completed a few days prior to my
departure from the Colony, for it was found that the map first
prepared had become soiled. I am, however, not perfectly sure upon
this latter point, and I have not my papers
with with me to refer to, but
it is my firm impression that a second sketch map was made by the
Surveyor General, and that at a period immediately preceding my
departure.
6. With respect to the statement of the Surveyor General, of which
you make mention, that the purchase money was paid
to me, upon
my order as Colonial Secretary, by the Surveyor
General, I beg most distinctly to deny ever having given such an
order to the Surveyor General. The amount I received, upon behalf of
my wife, was named by him, and paid by him under the circumstances I
have already described. The fact of my name as Colonial Secretary
appearing upon the Requisition authorizing the
expenditure expenditure, only
applies to this expenditure in common with other items. It conveys
no authority from
me individually, but merely certifies, according to established
custom, after the Document had been laid before the Governor, that
the Governor approves the outlay and authorizes the Treasurer to pass
it. All the accounts and documents connected with the Light House
Expenditure were sent home from time to time to the Board of Trade,
and a reference to that Department will no doubt produce the
Documents I refer to and confirm what I state.
7. In regard to the assumption of the Secretary of State that I will
be prepared to execute such Deeds and
to to do all other such acts as
the Crown may be advised are necessary to make the transaction herein
referred to complete and effectual, I trust that what I have related
will serve to shew that the Secretary of State is not wrong in so
judging me. Both my wife and myself are fully prepared—if the
existing conveyance be held to be defective—to do all that may be in
our power to repair the omission. I must, however, disclaim being
responsible for such omission if really existing. The draft Deed was
delivered to me from the office of the Surveyor General, and—issuing
from such a source—I, not unnaturally, assumed that it had been
prepared with due regard to saving the rights of the
Government Government.
8. In conclusion I would desire further to remark that after
placing myself in the hands of the Colonial Government to determine
the value of the land, I should, naturally, have been reluctant to
originate my appeal against the decision arrived at; but as the
subject is now before the Secretary of State, I trust I may be
pardoned in further trespassing upon his attention by alluding to the
loss I conceive my family to have sustained through what was really
to me—considering the view I took of the official position I
held—mistaken though it might be—the compulsory alienation of a
piece of valuable land,
although although I am, at the same time, free to
confess that I have only myself to blame for having allowed a sense
of delicacy to blind me to the duty which I owed to my wife and
children. The Secretary of State is well aware that land in a new
Country, and more especially in an auriferous one, is not held at its
actually existing or intrinsic value, as in the case with property
in old and settled countries where calculations can be pretty
accurately made of what return an investment will yield for years to
come. No such standard of value can be applied in a new country.
What may be considered a piece of almost worthless land to day, may
tomorrow be worth a fortune.
Vancouver's Islanditself itself is every day
affording striking instances of this—much to the benefit of the
far-seeing. The spot herin referred to—
Fisgard Island—is situated
immediately at the entrance of the most accessible Harbour in the
whole Northern Pacific, and one that I firmly believe will within a
few years be crowded with shipping, as
San Francisco is now; for, so
long as the Port is maintained Free, I have a perfect faith in the
future of the Colony, and of its becoming the great British Emporium
for the northern Pacific. The value of such a position as
Fisgard
Island, under such circumstances, is evident, and the inadequacy of
the compensation paid for it apparent. At the time the Island was
taken possession of by the Government, I consulted the
largest largest Real
Estate Agent in the place as to its value, and judging from his
opinion, any my own knowledge of the prices that land at
Esquimalt
had brought, I feel confident that had the Island been then put up
for Sale at public auction it would have realized a sum not less than
Five Thousand Dollars ($5000); and if I—instead of remaining
passive—had insisted upon the matter being referred to arbitration,
I am convinced a sum very much larger than that I received would have
been awarded.
Minutes by CO staff
Sir F. Rogers
As the Land B
d prepared the Letter to
Mr Young I presume that
gentleman's ans
r should be sent to them.
At once.
CNB. Is not
Mr Pemberton rather than M
r &
Mrs Young the person
who is particularly required to make a fresh conveyance of the Land?
Other documents included in the file
Elliot to Emigration Commissioners,
3 October 1864, forwarding
copy of the letter for their suggestions and observations.