 
                  
                  Sir F. Rogers
                     I should say that this Colony was drifting into financial troubles
                     which the Governor has no power whatever of averting.
                     
 
                  
                  
                     The "ways and means" provided by the Assembly for the expenditure of
                     1865 fell short by a sum of upwards of 70,000 dollars.
                     
                  
                  
                     Fortunately the Governor will keep the Crown Revenue of /65 distinct
                     from General Revenue.
                     
                  
                  
                     The Assembly repudiates the repayment to the English Board of Trade a
                     moiety of the sum of £6246.19.10 which was advanced for the building
                     of 2 Light Houses on condition of repayment. (
B.C. was liable for a
                     similar moiety & G. Britain has
                     
given £6246.19.10 to the service.)  I observe that 
Dr Helmcken
                     (Speaker of the Ass
y—& Son in Law to 
Sir James Douglas) 
wd ride
                     off from the bargain by saying that when the matter was under
                     discussion in the House it was decided that this debt 
shd be
                     liquidated out of the Crown Land Fund.  But this excuse can hardly be
                     admitted.  The proposal was never submitted to the S. State, and
                     could not have been agreed to.  In the mean while what are we to say
                     to the B
d of Trade, whom we are bound to see repaid their advance?
                     It is impossible to charge the debt to the Crown Revenue & never was
                     so intended.  It seems to me a case of repudiation on the part of the
                     Colony & must make us cautious in future.  It 
shd be observed that
                     
B. Columbia has not yet paid her share.  But she has not appealed
                     against the claim.  Again last year the Colony being in great
                     straits, & no money in the Colonial Treasury the Governor consented,
                     on an indemnity being given him (see 8114) to pay certain public
                     Officers their Salaries out of Crown Revenue.  
Mr Cardwell, under
                     the pressing circs of the case, as represented to him, sanctioned
                     this step (see desp. 
16th S/64).
                     
                     The Assembly decline repayment.  Second instance of repudiation.
                     
                  
                  
                     Further they refuse to grant a Salary to the Surveyor General, & give
                     a "temporary & provisional" salary of £300 a year to the Office of
                     Attorney General.  It is impossible to make appointments of good men
                     from home to these Offices on such terms.
                     
                  
                  
                     All this is a matter for serious consideration but as the Governor
                     says in the last par: of his despatch that he will resume the subject
                     on some early occasion I imagine that his further report must be
                     waited for.
                     
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                     In 
Jany/59 Governor Douglas called the attention of the S. State to
                     the urgent necessity for the early erection of Light Houses upon some
                     of the Approaches to the Harbours & Anchorages of 
V.C. Isl. and 
B.
                        Columbia.  He mentioned that the 
Govt of the U. States had already
                     established Lights in certain other places convenient for our trade
                     as well as theirs.  
Govr Douglas added
                     
                     I am not aware of any funds that may be appropriated for these
                     objects, nor do I know to what 
Dt of 
Govt I 
shd properly apply
                     for assistance.  The infant state of the 2 Colonies precludes the
                     possibility of their being able to help themselves, & the matter
                     being one wh. it is manifest must materially affect their future
                     development I trust you will pardon me in bringing it before you &tc &.
                     
                     
                     
To Bd Trade 31 March 59
                     
                     The S. of State, considering that we ought surely to follow the
                     example of the U. States, & knowing that the want of Lights had been
                     complained of by the Adm
y endeavoured to persuade the B
d of Trade
                     to include the expense of the required Light houses within the class
                     of "Imperial Lights" in their application to Parl
t.
                     
                     
T-y Lr 4 May/59
                     
                     The Treasury declined putting the charge on the General (Parl
y)
                     Estimate for Lighthouses abroad:  but they agreed to charge the 
B.
                        Columbia Estimate (we had none for 
V.C. Island) with the sum of
                     £7000-the amount at that time supposed to be the cost of the
                     work—"with the understanding that one half of that sum would be
                     hereafter repaid from Colonial funds."
                     
                     
                     
                        
                           
                           (I see the T-y subsequently changed their minds & did put this item
                           on the "Lighthouses abroad" Estimate.  4 Aug/59.)  The cost ultimately
                           reached £12493.19.9 (B Trade 24 Dec/63).
                           
                        
                      
                     
                     
                     S. State to Govr 11 May/59
                     
                     The 
Govr was apprized on the 
11 May that the 
Govt would send out
                     all that was requisite for setting up the Light Houses (saving of
                     course materials on the spot) that the Treasury had "consented to
                     advance the £7000 on condition that one moiety of it 
shd be repaid
                     by the Colonies of 
V.C.I. & 
B.C. jointly."  It was also added
                     
                     With regard to the repayment by 
B.C. & 
V.C.I. to the Imp. T-y of the
                     moiety of the advance of £7000 I must leave it to you to decide the
                     proportion of that sum wh
h it 
wd be equitable that each Colony
                     
shd contribute, but I must instruct you that this debt 
shd be
                     repaid within the earliest practicable period.
                     
                     
                     
1
                     23 July Govr D.
                     
                     On the 
23 July/59 the 
Govr ack
d the S.S. 
desph of the 
11 May
                        preceeding & said
                     
                     I feel highly gratified by the intelligence conveyed in y
r desph of
                     the intention of H.M.G. to advance the sum of £7000 for the
                     construction of these important works, on the condition that one
                     moiety of it shall be repaid by the Colonies of 
V.C.I. and 
B.C.
                     jointly, & measures will be taken accordingly for that purpose.
                     
                     
                     
1
                     24 Decr. 63 B. Trade
                     
                     
S.S. to Govr 2 Jany/64
                     
                     As soon as we were informed by the B
d of Trade that the total cost
                     of the Houses was upwards of £12000 the S. State informed the 
Govr
                     of the fact, &, adverting to the conditions on which the Imp
l Govt
                     consented to advance money for the work, requested the Governor to
                     cause the sum of £6246.19.10 to be repaid in the proper proportions
                     by the two Colonies.
                     
                     
1
                     S.S. 66. 
15 Aug 61
                     
                     
                     
                     In ans
r to a 
desph from this Office saying that the Treasury 
wd
                     pay a bill drawn by the Governor on acc
t of the Lighthouses he wrote
                     thus:
                     
                     I feel very grateful to H.M.G for the essential aid afforded by the
                     advance of the funds required for the erection of these L. Houses;
                     for otherwise the work c
d not have been undertaken & successfully
                     carried through.  I will take the earliest fitting opp
y of bringing
                     to the notice of the Legislature the necessity of providing for the
                     repayment of the proportion of the advance due from the Colony, but
                     y
r G. is aware our revenue is very scanty, & our wants numerous &
                     urgent, & I doubt not H.M.G. will afford a reasonable [time] to meet
                     our obligations.
                     
                     
                     
1
                     9074/
65
                     
                     The result is declared in the despatch before you.
                     
                  
                  
                     Refusal to reimburse the Crown Revenue the sum of 34,066
                     dollars advanced to the public service.
                     
                     
——————————
                     
                     You are disposed to doubt whether the claim wh. the Govr has
                     advanced to be reimbursed 34,066 dollars has any thing to do with the
                     pledge of the Assembly of 2 July/64.
                     
                  
                  
                     I have nothing to produce in explanation of this point besides the
                     Governors own Letter to the Assembly of the 30 March last (in 9074)
                     in which he speaks of that sum as the Estimated balance of Crown
                     Revenue wh. ought to have been in the hands of the Treasurer on the
                     31 Decr/64 & wh: has been disbursed, in the absence of other
                     funds, for local purposes, including all Salaries paid for 1864.  He
                     goes on to speak of this sum as being that wh. the Assembly had
                     undertaken to replace out of ordinary revenue by their resolution of
                     2 July 1864.
                     
                  
                  
                     The inference I draw is that the resolution of 2 July promises to
                     repay the 34,066 dollars.  But I may be mistaken.
                     
                  
                  
                   
               
               
                  
                  
                     Previous papers referred to in desp.
                     
                  
                  
                     There seem to be three questions.  1. Reduction or refusal of
                     Salaries 
wh the Leg
e wish to throw on the Crown Rev
e.
                     2. Refusal
                     to pay share of expenses of Lighthouse.  3. Refusal

 to indemnify the
                     
Govr for paying certain salaries out of Crown Rev
e he not being
                     auth
d to do so by the 
Secy of State.
                     
                     1.  On the first point I imagine that in the present state of affairs
                     the Crown Revenue is simply unequal to bear the proposed burdens.
                     But I think that part of the Surveyor Generals Salary is a fair
                     charge on Land Revenue.
                     
                  
                  
                     As

 to the second and third points, vide 
Mr Blackwood's separate
                     minute, the completeness of 
wh I take for granted.
                     
                     2.  Lighthouses.
                     
                  
                  
                     It 
wd seem that this department promised the Treas
y that half the
                     expense of the Lighthouse 
shd be born by 
B.C. & 
V.C.I.  The dep
t
                     was competent to pledge the 
B.C. Revenue and the Crown Revenue of
                     
V.C.I.  But it was not competent to pledge the
                     
General Revenue of 
V.C.I. and the Leg
re of 
V.C.I. may, as far
                     as I see, in strict right, refuse to be bound by the implied pledge
                     of 
Govr Douglas (in the desp of 
wh copy is annexed).
                     
                     
                     
                     
                     
                     If we cannot, now or at some future period, pay it out of the Crown
                     Rev
e, I do not see how we can enforce our claim ag
st
 an unwilling
                     Leg
e either in fact or in argument.
                     
                     3.  On the 
2nd of July 1864 (Res: 2) the Assembly pledged itself "to
                     indemnify H.E. the 
Govr in case he shall take the responsibility of
                     paying the s[ai]d
                     
                     salaries" (1/2 years salaries to C. Justice 
Atty Genl Col Treas
                     Surveyor General) "out of the Crown Revenues while awaiting further
                     instructions from HMs 
Govt."  It is not clear that he has received
                     any instructions.
                     
                     
                     
                        
                           
                           [but qu?] No 30 of 16 Sept 1862.
                           
                           
                      
                     
                     Those instructions 
shd now I suppose be given & in that case the
                     Ass
ly will stand pledged to pay the salaries of the above officers
                     for the 
half year endg July 1864 if not also for the 
1/2 year
                        endg January 1865.
                     
 
                  
                  
                     But I can not see that the Assly has any where pledged itself to the
                     whole outlay from Crown Funds for General purposes—stated at $34,066.
                     
                  
                  
                     It may be right that they shd pay it but I see no evidence that they
                     have
                     acknd that right.
                     
                  
                  
                     The ultimate point to be aimed at is I suppose the transfer of all
                     
V.C.I. matters to the 
V.C.I. Govt & Legislature—the Legislature
                     obtaining control over the Crown Fund and satisfying all the demands
                     of the Imp
l Govt.
                     
                     This we can only accomplish by making the Crown Fund available to
                     relieve our own difficulties & so managing it as to shew that it is
                     worth while for the Colony to take it on our terms.
                     
                  
                  
                     The expenditure to which it 
shd be in this view exclusively

 devoted,
                     seem to me as follows:
                     
                     1. Colonial Payments to 
wh the faith of the Home 
Govt is
                     pledged—viz—as I understand the salaries of the 
Govr & Col.
                     Secretary.
                     
                     2. Its own maintenance & increase—in which will be included
                     the salaries of the Surveyor Gen. & his staff so far as his duties
                     have this object.  If he receives no payment from the 
Genl Rev
e,
                     it 
wd be competent to him to refuse to lay out roads &c (except for
                     the purpose of increasing the C
n Rev
e) or plan further building.
                     Under this head 
wd also be included (if necessary) explorations.
                     
                     3. Discharge of liabilities to the Home 
Govt—such as the
                     light house debt.
                     
                     4. Conduct & conclusion of matters 
wh the Home 
Govt has
                     practically treated—such as the negotiations

 with the H.B.C.—e.g. I
                     
wd not object to pay Lowenberg for his Lot Z out of Crown Funds
                     
if they sufficed for 
the purpose.
                     
                     On the whole therefore I 
shd be inclined to say to the 
Govr that
                     you regretted the refusal of the Assembly to pay for the Lighthouses
                     and to replace the expenditures from the Crown Fund of $34,066
                     (giving reasons)—that 
Govr Kennedy wd of course under these
                     cir
s not be at liberty to make further advances for Crown Funds
                     except for purposes
                     specially sanct
d by you—that he 
wd continue to pay the
                     Salaries of the 
Govr & Secretary—that he 
wd also be at liberty to
                     pay part of the Surveyor Gen
l's Salary—viz—so much

 as was a
                     fitting remuneration for Services rendered to the Crown Revenue—that
                     the officer c
d under these circumstances not be under an obligation
                     to perform that part of his duties 
wh are properly paid for from the
                     
Genl Revenue.
                     
                     That you do not doubt that the Lege will repay those advances on
                     acct of salaries wh it pledged itself to repay by the Resolution of
                     2 July 1864 if required by the Home Govt.
                     
                  
                  
                     That the Crown Revenue subject to the above payments & to such others
                     as may be necessary for its own administration maintenance &
                     increase, need be carefully husbanded to meet liabilities like that
                     respect
g Lighthouses in 
wh
 the interest or Credit of
                     the Crown is concerned & which the Legislature refuse to adopt.
                     
                     I minute this with a little hesitation however from want of
                     familiarity with the correspondence on these matters.