Public Offices document.
Minutes (3), Other documents (1), Marginalia (1).
Murdoch sends Elliot his perspective on continuing negotiations between the government and the
HBC regarding the transfer of land in Victoria and questions
Douglas's intent, noting that he owns a considerable extent of land there.
I have to acknowledge your letter of 11th instant with one from the
Hudson's Bay Co on the subject of the Land transferred to the Crown
in the Town of VictoriaVancouvers Isld by the Agreement with the
Hudsons Bay Co of the 3rd of February last.
2. When that agreement was communicated to Governor Douglas he
observed that the effect of it, so far from restoring any land to the
Crown would be to confirm the Company in claims which they had not
before been able to establish and he intimated that Mr Dallas had
availed himself of his local knowledge in the matter to obtain this
advantage over the Government. Governor Douglas' despatch was
referred to the Company—but in their answer they took no notice of
this charge. Their attention was called to the omission and Mr
Berens letter is his explanation of it.
3. He states that in his previous answer he had purposely avoided
noticing the imputation, because he was aware that the Governor
himself was in possession of Land which Mr Dallas considered ought
to belong to the Government and because he was unwilling to give rise
to a discussion which must produce disagreeable feeling but could have
no useful result. He adds that as far as he is aware there were no
means in this country at the time the arrangement was entered into of
ascertaining precisely the unsold lands—but he sends plans of the
lots which the Company's Agent proposed should be surrendered to the
Crown.
and I do not see therefore that there would be any use in sending Mr
Berens' letter to the Governor. It would no doubt produce a
rejoinder from him and could not, as far as I can see, lead to any
practical result. But it might be desirable to furnish the Governor
with copies of the plans enclosed in Mr Berens' letter, that it may
be ascertained whether they represent accurately the land which will
be surrendered to the Crown under the Agreement.
I have the honor to be
Sir
Your Obedient
Humble Servant T.W.C. Murdoch
Minutes by CO staff
Sir F. Rogers
Send the Plans to the Govr as suggested with reference to the Duke's
Despatch No 121—15 Novr?
Draft reply, Newcastle to Douglas, No. 123, 19 December 1862,
sharing copies of maps provided by Berens and asking if Douglas believes they are accurate.